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RE: [nv-l] The use of HTTP for node up/down instead of ping or sn mp ?

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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:06:32 -0600
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Hi Larry,
I'm in the middle of writing a script that will be responsible for testing "basic functionality" of all our production Windows and Unix boxes.  The systems will be tested using a combination of Samba and sshquery.pl.  Our thinking is that when a basic function check fails it would send a trap to the Netview management server causing another product we are using to do network correlation.  The function checks run in parallel with the normal SNMP and ICMP checks that Netview does.  It would be easy enough to do something similar in your situation, you could group all your "HTTP" servers in a smartset and then use a script to list the items in the smartset and run "checks" against them (A quick shell script doing a wget would be easy enough).  If this check fails then you could send a trap to Netview.
 
In my case I'm using Coordinator from Magnum Technologies to handle the correlation of network related problems, but someone on this list might know of a way to integrate the TRAP into an event that Netview could do something with.  In my cause I only need to notify Coordinator, but I would love to also manipulate the color of the symbol if the function check fails.... this is a future goal :)
 
Hope this gives you some ideas.
 
Jason
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That is unfortunate, we are trying to replace "What's UP Gold" network monitor which does this type of monitoring and fold this function it into Netview, (UNIX). I would like to hear  from anyone who has implemented HTTP node up/down using Netview in a UNIX environment.

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Larry Pytlik
Clorox
Network Engineering


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NetView is an SNMP manager first and foremost.

The short answer is that there is no such option, so you would have to build something of your own to monitor these boxes, as netmon will not discover them.


How you might do that will depend greatly on whether you are on Windows or UNIX, and on the capabilities of the boxes themselves.


On UNIX, NetView offers a complete programming toolkit for non-ip topology and manuals on how to utilize it.  That would give you a full-blown solution.  But it requires C/C++ programming on your part.   Otherwise you might be able to rig something with servmon and scripts.  


James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group


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How do I configure Netview to use HTTP for node up/down for a few "special" network nodes? The particular nodes do not have SNMP and Ping is blocked but http is allowed.

Our Netview version is 7.1.3FP02.


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Larry Pytlik

Clorox

Network Engineering


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