Hi James,
Thanks for the clarification.
The problem I am having here in our region is as follows:
1. No Training Courses available and if any the number of candidates are
too short to conduct a training
2. No support from IBM local as they do not have the expertise (IBM
local requested me to join TME10 and from there I found out about your
group)
3. No documentation takes about NetView in Linux (all about UNIX AIX and
Windows)
Is there anything that you can help me with.
Thanks and Regards
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Senior Technical Support, IT/HO
Zahid Tractor & Heavy Machinery Co. Ltd
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
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Fax: 966 2 6690727
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*James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>*
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I'm sorry but I'm having a bit of trouble interpreting just what you are
asking.
Let me see if this will clarify things somewhat.
1. NetView for UNIX does not require a relational database to work.
However, if you have an RDBMS, and both it and your Operating System
were one of those supported by the Tivoli RIM component, then you
could install all three, the Tivoli Framework, and both RIM and NetView,
under that. This would make your NetView box a managed node in a Tivoli
Management region, and NetView a managed resource on that managed node.
Once this were accomplished, then you could install the NetView
DataBase Component, which is only available when you install NetView via
The Tivoli Framework. Having installed all that, then you could proceed
to offload topology, event, or collected MIB data, into your RDBMS for
further analysis. I thought that was the original question you were
asking. My understanding is that some level of the Framework is
indeed available for Linux, but RIM is not, though, as I said this may
have recently changed.
2. Sending NetView events to the Tivoli Event Console (TEC) can be done
whether or not NetView is installed with the Framework. When NetView
is not installed under the Tivoli Framework, one can use the non-TME
method of sending events to TEC. You are correct about this.
3 Graphing collected MIB data is a function that can be done solely
within NetView, without an RDBMS. But only current data can be graphed.
First the snmpCollect daemon can be configured to collect the
information using the xnmcollect command, or from the map GUI under
Tools --> Data Collection and Thresholds : SNMP . . . This brings up
the MIB Data Collection panel in which you can resume or suspend data
collection for the MIB Objects defined there, or create new ones. But
until the daemon has collected data, there will be nothing to graph.
You can tell whether there is data or not by clicking the "Show Data"
button on the MIB Data Collection panel.
I hope this helps.
I myself do not work with the snmpCollect daemon and graphing collected
data on a regular basis, but if you can describe the steps you took and
the problem you are having in more detail, then perhaps other users can
respond. If you choose to go that route, then be sure to indicate what
steps you took and what error messages did you got. Of course, you
can always open a problem to IBM Support in your local area and get
personalized assistance.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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Just for you information NetView on Linux does not support Tivoli
Environment. So there is no question of having Tivoli Frame work but the
Event Manager could route the events to Tivoli Frame Work if you have
one in your environment.
Further more, NetView in AIX has support for Tivoli Frame Work and can
be installed using Tivoli Desktop.
Is it essential to have a relation (or no relational) database for
NetView to Work?
We did manage to install NetView and we are getting some information but
this information is not very clear and we can not for example create a
Graph based on collected data, could you please provide some help in
this regard?
Thanks and Regards
*Mahmoud U. Mudhaffar*
Senior Technical Support, IT/HO
Zahid Tractor & Heavy Machinery Co. Ltd
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
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Fax: 966 2 6690727
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Basically, No.
RDBMS support for the NetView for UNIX versions requires using the
Tivoli RIM (Relational Database Interface Manager) product, which in
turn requires the Tivoli Framework. The way it works is that NetView
talks to RIM, and RIM to the RDBMS. As it says in the 7.1.4 Release
Notes, in the section "Product Notes", under the seventh bulleted item,
that there is no RIM support for Linux because there is no support for
RIM in the Tivoli Management Region on Linux. But this may have
changed recently. I don't know as I don't keep up on Framework issues.
But even if RIM were now available on Linux so that you could install it
and NetView using the Framework, I would not expect that MySQL was a
supported RDBMs for RIM. In the past only DB2, Informix, Oracle, and
Sybase schemas were available for NetView.
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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Hi,
NetView : 7.4.1
OS : SuSE 8.1 Professional
Does NetView support MySQL? If so then can you please refer to me a
document which explains how it can be done.
Thanks and Regards
*Mahmoud U. Mudhaffar*
Senior Technical Support, IT/HO
Zahid Tractor & Heavy Machinery Co. Ltd
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