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RE: Re: [nv-l] nvserverd event in TEC

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Subject: RE: Re: [nv-l] nvserverd event in TEC
From: <westphal2002@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 14:04:54 +0000
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James,
We got the event on Sunday morning again at the start of the backup. Everything 
resolves correctly so I checked the script that starts the backup. At the start 
of the script, the server(s) are put into "maintenance mode" so that any other 
events received for the server(s) during scheduled maintenance are discarded. 
Since the interface was added not all of the possible server(s), interface(s) 
or origin(s) were placed into maintenance mode.

Thanks for your help.

Ray Westphal
Enterprise Rent-A-Car
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> From: James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>
> Date: 2004/06/07 Mon PM 01:44:51 GMT
> To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [nv-l] nvserverd event in TEC
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> Then why are they paging you?  Haven't they seen the problem before?  :-)
> 
> Seriously Ray, I'm as confused as I can be about this.  This is 7.1.4, 
> right? My only suggestion is that you get an nvserverd trace and call 
> Support.
> Create a /usr/OV/bin/netnmrc.pre file which contains the line,
>         export NVSERVERD_TRACE_TEC_EVENTS=TRUE
> and then restart everything.  You'll need to go all the way down, with 
> "ovstop nvsecd" and come up with "/etc/netnmrc"
> 
> I don't know whether this log will be helpful or not, quite frankly, but I 
> have no idea where else to look for an answer at this time.
> I don't see how nvserverd can have the address wrong on shutdown, if he's 
> had it right all the time before.  Once the address and name of the 
> NetView box have been determined for the first time, nvserverd sets a flag 
> to mark that and keeps them in storage.  He shouldn't try to find a new 
> address once the flag is set. So I am mystified as to what is going on 
> here. 
> 
> James Shanks
> Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
> Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
> 
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> "Ray Westphal" <westphal2002@charter.net> 
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> It was not an isolated event. That was the 3rd weekend (3rd NetView 
> shutdown) since the interface has been added and the 3rd occurrence of the 
> problem.
>  
> Thanks,
> Ray Westphal
> Enterprise Rent-A-Car
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> Behalf Of James Shanks
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> So this is not an isolated event?  Or is that what you are waiting to 
> determine? 
> 
> James Shanks
> Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
> Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group 
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> James,
> I found some inconsistencies in the NetView server host file. I also found 
> a misspelling for the NetView server hostname in the TMR's host file 
> (although that should not affect the source). 
> 
> I was reading the message from the 3.9 TEC Console (java GUI). This is 
> what our operations folks monitor. Here is the message from wtdumprl:
> Nvserverd_Event;source=nvserverd;origin=0.0.0.0;hostname=UNKNOWN;adapter_host=UNKNOWN;date="05/30/04
>  
> 01:03:47";status=OPEN;severity=
> FATAL;msg="nvserverd is ending";END
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> DNS is not shutdown. However - the host files are read by the server 
> first.
> 
> The message is received by the TMR very quickly. Other events appear 
> correctly.
> 
> Let's see what happens this Sunday.
> 
> Thanks.
> Ray Westphal
> Enterprise Rent-A-Car
> 
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> > From: James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>
> > Date: 2004/06/04 Fri PM 04:52:28 GMT
> > To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
> > Subject: Re: [nv-l] nvserverd event in TEC
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> > Well, that is the standard "nvserverd is ending message" you get when he 
> 
> > is shut down, but that is not how it looks when you do wtdumprl, so I'm 
> > not certain where you are reading it from, though I suppose that does 
> not 
> > matter.  From the nvserverd code, the only way that the hostname would 
> be 
> > UNKOWN is if it could not be resolved, and the 0.0.0.0 IP address is 
> what 
> > you get if we cannot determine that.    Does DNS get shutdown too?  That 
> 
> > might explain the first case, but the latter has me confused too.
> > 
> > And this message should have come into TEC within seconds of when you 
> shut 
> > everything down, which it now seems is what happened, not hours later. 
> > I thought you were home in bed at 1 am, and this was very old news.   Or 
> 
> > am I missing something? 
> > 
> > But if we have bad name or address resolution then it should show up in 
> > many TEC events, not just this one.  The ones just before the shutdown 
> are 
> > OK?   And things were OK after you brought it up?  Is the adapter_host 
> > still the same before and after?
> > 
> > I couldn't be more confused by this problem description.  There's some 
> > piece to this puzzle I don't have but I don't know what it looks like.
> > 
> > 
> > James Shanks
> > Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
> > Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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> > Sorry about that James,
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> > I should have supplied more information. I hope the following helps you 
> > help me. 
> > 
> > 1) We added a interface to the IBM server. It is the 4th interface. No 
> > changes were made to the other interfaces.
> > 2) The interface IP addresses and names of all of the interfaces are in 
> > the /etc/hosts files.
> > 3) At 1am on Sunday morning - we backup the server so I shutdown 
> NetView. 
> > After the restart, I run reset_ci. 
> > 4)The message in TEC is:
> > "nvserverd is ending. 
> > This Fatal Nvserverd_Event event was received by a TEC server at 5/30/04 
> 
> > 1:05:22 AM."
> > The event source message is:
> > "This event was reported by NetView (TEC) from UNKNOWN.
> > It originated from 0.0.0.0 (TEC), on the host named "UNKNOWN".
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Ray Westphal
> > Enterprise Rent-A-Car
> > 
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> > From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] 
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> > Behalf Of James Shanks
> > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 3:48 PM
> > To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
> > Subject: Re: [nv-l] nvserverd event in TEC
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> > The short answer is "no", nvserverd does not bind to an address, 
> whatever 
> > that means.  But it does try to resolve the address of it's own NetView 
> > box. That's how the fields like adapter_ host are set.   A new interface 
> 
> > card?  Does it replace the old one? 
> > If you have changed NetView's address then you must do reset_ci and 
> > restart the daemons. 
> > 
> > If none of this is helpful, it would be really helpful to the rest of us 
> 
> > if you would post the actual message you were paged for.  It's hard 
> having 
> > to guess what it looks like.  And it would be helpful to know whether 
> the 
> > same fields were messed up in other messages sent to TEC or they are 
> > unique for this one. 
> > 
> > 
> > James Shanks
> > Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
> > Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group 
> > 
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> > Hello Everyone.
> > NetView 7.1.3 on AIX 5.2 ML2
> > 
> > I recently was paged at 1am for a nvserverd "Fatal" event that showed up 
> 
> > in TEC for an UNKNOWN server. The Tivoli admin checked his reception log 
> 
> > and confirmed the event was received by the TMR with the host UNKNOWN 
> and 
> > the IP address 0.0.0.0. Does nvserverd bind to a server IP address and 
> is 
> > there a way to determine the IP address? I think this is related to 
> > installing a new interface on the NetView server. 
> > 
> > "wping", "odadmin odlist", "wlookup" and other Tivoli commands all seem 
> to 
> > work correctly.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Ray Westphal
> > Enterprise Rent-A-Car
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