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From: "Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 08:02:31 -0500
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Keep in mind, netmon has a list of things to check status on. If you only had 
one node discovered, and it was on a 1 second status poll (theoretical, don't 
really try that) it would notice much faster than if it were on a 3 minute poll 
with 100 nodes. 
 
Netmon would definately notice it up at the next schedule poll of the device. 
There is a netmon command to dump the ping list (and the SNMP list) to see if 
you are backing up on status polls or whether you've got cycles to spare. The 
man page for netmon has the proper flag (netmon -a 11 / 12 are for ping lists) 
if you issue netmon -a 12 and then look at the netmon.trace file, it will tell 
you how many nodes are in line to be pinged. 
 
We've all observed the behavior you are describing, but it is usually 
attributed to being anxious to see the node turn green again. Now, if the 
status poll time passes, and the node doesn't turn green, then you do have a 
problem.  If you want to know when the next status poll for a node occurs, use 
ovtopodump -rl <resourcename>.
 
Hope that helps. 
 
Scott Barr
Distributed Network Engineer
CSG Systems Inc.
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From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com on behalf of Freeman, Michael
Sent: Thu 10/7/2004 7:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [nv-l] how does netmon interact with the ARP cache?



If this is the case, then how come in my simulations when I start an agent, and 
then netview notices its down, then I turn it back up, if I ping it right away 
the object in netview changes status, if not, it will eventually pick it up 
when "it feels like it"

 

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From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On 
Behalf Of Barr, Scott
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [nv-l] how does netmon interact with the ARP cache?

 

The arp cache will only store the mac address of the local router that is 
forwarding packets on behalf of the IP address you are interested. The real mac 
address is not present in the arp table on the router (unless by coincidence, 
the router has another interface into the subnet where the device actually 
resides). I believe the same would be true for the netview box's arp cache - 
it's going to reflect the mac address of the device local to the NetView server 
(such as the local router) that can reach the end device IP address.

 

Short answer: I don't think arp cache has anything to do with it. I could be 
wrong.

 

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From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On 
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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:25 PM
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Subject: [nv-l] how does netmon interact with the ARP cache?

 

I have noticed that if a device goes down, and then comes back up before netmon 
"magically notices it", if you ping the device, the object status will change 
in NetView. I assume this is because NetView is somehow monitoring the arp 
tables? We are using NetView 7.1.3 on Solaris and I am kind of curious to know 
how netmon and the arp cache works. It seemed like in my tests with my network 
simulator, If I took down 200 nodes, and then brought them up before netmon's 
polling cycle kicked in, that if I pinged every one of them (with a script of 
course), about only 10 or so nodes would immediately have their object status 
changed in NetView. How does netmon divvy up the workload? Helper threads? 
Timeslicing ? 

 

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