Micromuse is the future
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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Thank you James.
So does that mean the IBM product that will do this, will continue
to be Netview, or a new product under MicroMuse (Performance IP maybe)?
We use the TEC and yes the Netview is kind of a freebee under Princeton
agreement.
Jeff Fitzwater
OIT Network Systems
Princeton University
James Shanks wrote:
> I don't know how "good" the reason is but there is one. Remember that
the
> basic design of NetView is about fifteen years old, and for much of that
> time, layer 2 visibility wasn't required. Layer 3 was sufficient. It's
> only newer technologies like VLAN, MPLS, wireless, and so on, which make
> it essential for managing those things. Enter Switch Analyzer. Switch
> Analyzer is not part of the NetView base, but was developed externally by
> Magnum Technology and IBM has been licensing the code from them, as well
as
> continuing support and development. It's recovering all that new
> investment in a short time which makes the code so expensive. The rest
> of NetView is practically free. Heck, it is free if you buy TEC.
>
> But you are right, Jeff. A comprehensive network management solution
> should include built-in layer 2 visibility, full-support for SNMPv1, v2,
> and v3, and more. And that's our direction. That's why IBM purchased
> Micromuse.
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> James Shanks
> Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
> Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
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> Is there a good reason why SWITCH ANALYZER is not part of the Netview
> package?
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> It would seem that a level2 node mapping would be part of any product
> like this.
>
> I have been looking at adding the product, but is cost prohibitive due
> to pricing.
>
> Education price 8.00 per switch port and 4k per host processor.
>
> We have 15k switch ports = 120,000
> host has 2 900MHz Process = 8,000
> Maintenance per Yr 5,000
> ------------------------------------------
> Total cost would be ~$133,000
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> I could lower the cost a little by upgrading the host to a single 2k
> processor. That makes sense!?
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> I have talked with sales, but no break there.
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> Any comments please.
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> Jeff Fitzwater
> OIT Network Systems
> Princeton University
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