Re: [NV-L] Why isn't SWITCH ANALYZER packaged with NV

[James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>]

I don't know how "good" the reason is but there is one.  Remember that the
basic design of NetView is about fifteen years old, and for much of that
time, layer 2 visibility wasn't required.  Layer 3 was sufficient.  It's
only newer technologies like VLAN, MPLS,  wireless, and so on, which make
it essential for managing those things.  Enter Switch Analyzer.   Switch
Analyzer is not part of the NetView base, but was developed externally by
Magnum Technology and IBM has been licensing the code from them, as well as
continuing support and development.  It's recovering all that new
investment in a short  time which makes the code so expensive.   The rest
of NetView is practically free.  Heck, it is free if you buy TEC.

But you are right, Jeff.  A comprehensive network management solution
should include built-in layer 2 visibility, full-support for SNMPv1, v2,
and v3, and more.  And that's our direction.  That's why IBM purchased
Micromuse.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group


                                                                           
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Is there a good reason why SWITCH ANALYZER is not part of the Netview
package?

It would seem that a level2 node mapping would be part of any product
like this.

I have been looking at adding the product, but is cost prohibitive due
to pricing.

Education price 8.00 per switch port and 4k per host processor.

We have 15k switch ports =        120,000
host has 2  900MHz Process =        8,000
Maintenance per Yr                         5,000
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Total cost would be                    ~$133,000



I could lower the cost a little by upgrading the host to a single 2k
processor.  That makes sense!?


I have talked with sales, but no break there.


Any comments please.


Jeff Fitzwater
OIT Network Systems
Princeton University
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