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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:53:55 -0400
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I'm not certain how anyone on this list can help you.

Perhaps no one can, because this statement indicates that you have a non-standard environment
>>Note that the color is changed by using the "nvsnmptrap" application (from a TEC rule).

Based on the fact that you seem new to NetView, I'll assume that you did not set this up. I can guess how nvsnmptrap might be used to alter the status (color) of an object, but NetView and TEC do not provide anything like that out of the box, so someone else in your shop has decided how this mechanism will work. Perhaps you should consult with them as to what this does and why it was implemented.

But what I can tell you is that nvsniffer is a unique application. Only on the Windows platform does it create those service icons at the interface level and maintain them based on status of the service. It was also replaced by the servmon daemon in 7.1.4, so the question naturally arises, what level of NetView are you using? nvsniffer is still shipped in NetView for those who were using it before, but most new users have switched to servmon.

In any case, it is up to servmon/nvsniffer to maintain the status, and therefore the color, of those service icons. Why it is failing to do that I cannot say. Does it eventually restore the correct status after some time? Or is that why someone invented the TEC rule mechanism -- to put it back?


James Shanks
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Network Management - Development
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Hello,

Ok for Netview console. I think I'll used the "netviewd" daemon and stop this daemon if I need to add a node.

Now, about the blue icons, I'll try to explain (better ;-) ) my problem:
At the first configuration of the Netview map, I started the discovery of servers (by using "netmon seed" file). Once these servers were discovered, I created a map by using the « location.conf » configuration file.
Then, I started the creation of applications (services, processes, etc.) by using the « nvsniffer » application.
Now, I have the icon representing the server and inside this icon, I have services (or applications) which are running.
The problem is about these icons. In fact for some servers (not all), when I close/restart the Netview application, some icons turn to blue (instead of staying red or green because they were green or red just before stopping the application).
I really don't understand why... Indeed, the SmartSets are green...

Where are stored the states of each icon of the map? Maybe the problem comes from here?

Note that the color is changed by using the "nvsnmptrap" application (from a TEC rule).

Regards,

Yann


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RE: [NV-L] Netview: Console, map and blue icons...

I believe you can only run the service for web console OR the real console in R/W mode -not both at the same time. I vaguely recall you may be able to open the standard console I R/W mode THEN start the web console service (but only in R/O mode)
As for the blue - that can be different things. Typically it means the device has been discovered somehow (arp cache, route tables, snmp information from a device) but its true state cannot be determined. Usually that's because there is no ping or snmp connectivity to those objects. I'd verify that. My workaround for some firewalls is to add the device to netmon seed editor as an snmp status checked device. That way if you can talk to 1 interface the rest can be queried through snmp interface status.

HTH,
Glen

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Subject: [NV-L] Netview: Console, map and blue icons...

Hello all,



I have questions about Netview (which is running on windows 2000 / the
version is 7.1.5).



1. A question about the console. In fact, I see that there are two consoles:
The "Netview Webconsole" and the "Netview Console" (and the console we can
access by using a browser but that console is not important here).
Apparently it is not possible to start both consoles at the same time?



I can't start the "Netview console" (for instance: I want to change or add a
server) while the daemon "netviewd" is running... Is there something I
didn't see? Or maybe it is not possible to do that?





2. When I stop the "Netview Console" and restart this console, some of icons
turn to... "blue" (undefined state ?). I set the option "Save Open Topology
Objects every 20 minutes" but nothing changes. Is there something I have to
do to have the true color of these icons?



Regards,



Yann

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