As always...
I'd love to meet you in person. Sounds like we can have long conversations.
Ever though of coming to South Africa for a holiday. Great weather, wines....
Where are you based?
Regards
Douglas W. Stevenson wrote:
> Hey Jannie,
>
> I'll give it a shot...
>
> At 02:19 PM 6/11/98 +0200, Jannie van Zyl wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >We're currently looking at the so-called Manager-of-managers systems
> >available. Can anyone comment on products such as
> >
> >Netcool/Omnibus
> I like to replace xnmevents with the Conductor window. This one
> modification alone will enable OV NNM to support many more users. I like
> the capabilities of filtering events based upon various criteria... even on
> the fly.
>
> Omnibus is a very flexible Message bus that can incorporate messages from a
> variety of sources.
>
> >Tivoli Enterprise Console
>
> TEC is OK except for you must setup your events up front and the fact that
> it cannot handle more than about 7 messages per second. You have to do alot
> of legwork up front to get things going.
>
> If you are sending in traps from managed devices, be careful in that 1
> little trap storm from an Agent set to send in everything (Trap flood...)
> can nuke the system and its performance.
>
> >Command/Post
>
> I haven't used Command Post is so long, I cannot comment...
>
> >others?
>
> OSI NetExpert
>
> This is the Cadillac of MoMs... The rules are easy to work with even across
> Management Domains but will enable you to maintain complexity to where it
> is manageable... 1 thing I REALLY like in NetExpert is that an Alarm or
> Event is a Managed Object.
>
> NetExpert can plug into just about everything... Very high end. Takes
> alot of memory and hardware.
>
> HP IT Operations
>
> Yes... ITO is kind of a MoM... While I like the different Banks of Icons
> and the control you can distribute across your Support Organization, I
> still think the ITO Agents require an awful lot of work... Unless you pay
> oodles for Smart Plug-Ins... The Message Browser requires a bit of
> administration (filling up the Oracle Tables can be hazardous to the health
> of the system!) but is OK. ECS, while it is being touted as a Correlation
> system, in ITO it does nothing but filter messages (The Annotate isn't
> there...).
>
> As far as Correlation goes...
>
> Correlation is - Comparing data and conditions right?
>
> Omnibus - Event Deduplication up front. Automation and lookup tables can be
> built but the lookup tables need to be autogenerated by something that
> polls to be truly dynamic.
>
> Omnibus does a good job at letting you setup message groupings based on
> services... And it does not really take that long...
>
> TEC
>
> I personally haven't done automation or correlation in TEC... I've been
> told that it is accomplished in Prolog... I tried Prolog but never
> inhaled!!!!!
>
> Command Post
>
> Dunno...
>
> OSI NetExpert
>
> Extremely powerful... Tons of flexibility... (There's a price to pay along
> with this...)
>
> HP ITO
>
> ECS just filters... in ITO at least. I heard that in the next release ITO
> will have an Annotate function. Conceptually, I still have problems
> defining Telecommunications oriented logic to Broadcast oriented best
> effort based networks. Circuits in IP are conversation by conversation...
>
> Well, I hope that I have helped you a bit...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug...
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