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Subject: Re: Map Questions (floaters)
From: Leslie Clark <lclark@US.IBM.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:54:03 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
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You are taking the right approach. What you  are doing works fine. I cut
things into locations to simplify the map and then cut them back out all
the time. Where you are at now is probably a rediscovery problem. When
you did the delete, did you do it from the top menu (Edit..Delete..From
ALL submaps)? If so, you should be ready for rediscovery. If not, you
need to find the remnants and delete them. All submaps, and all maps if
you have more than one.

If it is all the way gone, find a router that has an interface on that
subnet and demandpoll it. If that won't do it, delete the interface from
the router and demandpoll again. Or force the discovery of some other node
on that subnet. Netview has to create a network symbol in order to place
the newly discovered interface.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking


Hi all,


I did a delete, and then did an ovtopofix and restarted netmon, but still
can't get the IP subnet to re-appear. I am not sure if the nodes in that
subnet were managed or not, if they weren't I could see this would probably
be my problem. Basically, my dilemma is as follows: I placed a bunch of ip
subnets into a location object, but now, wish to undo that, ie. get rid of
the location objects and have the IP subnets appear back on my default map,
instead of within the location submap...Does anyone have any suggestions
for the best way to go about doing this without losing my subnets?

Thanks for your time

Matt Ashfield
mda@unb.ca
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Leslie Clark <lclark@US.IBM.COM>
    To: NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu <NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu>
    Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:00 PM
    Subject: Re: Map Questions (floaters)




    If this happened to me, I would be very certain that I had fat-fingered
the
    cut and done a copy instead. I would expect that there was still a
symbol
    for the subnet inside the location icon. If there were not too many
nodes
    on that subnet, I would delete it (from all) and do an ovtopofix and
    restart netmon. If there were a lot to be lost by doing that, I would
    right-mouse
    on the floating symbol and delete the symbol using the context menu.

    Cordially,

    Leslie A. Clark
    IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
    (248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager


    ---------------------- Forwarded by Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM on
04-12-99
    10:57 AM ---------------------------


    Matt Ashfield <mda@UNB.CA> on 04-12-99 09:59:33 AM

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    To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
    cc:    (bcc: Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM)
    Subject:  Map Questions





    Hi all,

    I am running Netview 5.1, Framework 3.6 on AIX 4.3.2... I had a bunch
of IP
    subnets that I grouped into one location symbol/object. I bascially
created
    a location symbol, selected each IP subnet, Cut from the submap, opened
up
    the location symbol and Pasted them into there...Everything worked
fine.
    Now, the problem I having now is going in reverse. I have tried to take
a
    few of these subnets out of the location submap and back onto the IP
    Internet map, but when I cut them from the location submap, and paste
them
    back into the IP Internet map, they appear with that shadow and their
    connections to the router does not show up on the IP Internet map
(although
    it does appear in the router's submap). I have tried deleting the
    connection from the router submap, in hopes that it will be
re-discovered,
    but it doesn't happen... I hope this description makes some sense! Any
help
    would be greatly appreciated...

    Matt
    mda@unb.ca


Hi all,
 
 
I did a delete, and then did an ovtopofix and restarted netmon, but still can't get the IP subnet to re-appear. I am not sure if the nodes in that subnet were managed or not, if they weren't I could see this would probably be my problem. Basically, my dilemma is as follows: I placed a bunch of ip subnets into a location object, but now, wish to undo that, ie. get rid of the location objects and have the IP subnets appear back on my default map, instead of within the location submap...Does anyone have any suggestions for the best way to go about doing this without losing my subnets?

Thanks for your time
 
Matt Ashfield
-----Original Message-----
From: Leslie Clark <lclark@US.IBM.COM>
To: NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu <NV-L@ucsbvm.ucsb.edu>
Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: Map Questions (floaters)



If this happened to me, I would be very certain that I had fat-fingered the
cut and done a copy instead. I would expect that there was still a symbol
for the subnet inside the location icon. If there were not too many nodes
on that subnet, I would delete it (from all) and do an ovtopofix and
restart netmon. If there were a lot to be lost by doing that, I would
right-mouse
on the floating symbol and delete the symbol using the context menu.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
(248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager


---------------------- Forwarded by Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM on 04-12-99
10:57 AM ---------------------------


Matt Ashfield <mda@UNB.CA> on 04-12-99 09:59:33 AM

Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
      NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>

To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:    (bcc: Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM)
Subject:  Map Questions





Hi all,

I am running Netview 5.1, Framework 3.6 on AIX 4.3.2... I had a bunch of IP
subnets that I grouped into one location symbol/object. I bascially created
a location symbol, selected each IP subnet, Cut from the submap, opened up
the location symbol and Pasted them into there...Everything worked fine.
Now, the problem I having now is going in reverse. I have tried to take a
few of these subnets out of the location submap and back onto the IP
Internet map, but when I cut them from the location submap, and paste them
back into the IP Internet map, they appear with that shadow and their
connections to the router does not show up on the IP Internet map (although
it does appear in the router's submap). I have tried deleting the
connection from the router submap, in hopes that it will be re-discovered,
but it doesn't happen... I hope this description makes some sense! Any help
would be greatly appreciated...

Matt
mda@unb.ca

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