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Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support RDBMSes???

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Subject: Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support RDBMSes???
From: Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:51:26 -0700
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
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James,

I check with support, the fix support suggested
according PJ26414 was running Access instead of SQL.
Are you sure there is a E-fix for it? Has the news of
it propagated down the support chain?

Thanks
Xu He

--- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> The one I am talking about is called PJ26414.
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
>
>
> Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/12/99 12:40:35 PM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
>       <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject:  Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> RDBMSes???
>
>
>
>
>
> James,
>
> Do you happen to know the exact E-fix number for the
> event purging problem?  I am starting to have
> problem,
> with purging events, just after I upgraded to
> version
> 5.1.1, last week.  I've contacted support, and for
> some reason, the engineer is not aware of this fix.
>
> Thanks
> Xu He
>
> --- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> > In my view the short answer to this question is
> > "yes" and the long answer is
> > (supposed to be) "at least as much as the UNIX
> > version does, and more because
> > events are kept there by default, in whatever
> RDBMS
> > your SQL Server/ ODBC
> > drivers support".   At least that is how I
> > understand it, and because  I am a
> > real rookie with NT,  ODBC and all that, I urge
> all
> > those users familiar with
> > that stuff  to respond.
> >
> > 1.  Events on NT are kept in a relational
> database,
> > either MS-Access (the
> > default) or whatever RDBMS your SQL Server on NT
> is
> > configured for.    There was
> > a problem with using SQL Server at 5.1.1 when it
> > came time to do a purge, so
> > some users stopped doing that and went back to
> > MS-Access.  But this problem has
> > been fixed and an efix is available from Support
> if
> > you need it.
> >
> > 2.  You can manually load topology up to that
> RDBMS
> > any time you want, according
> > to my notes, by using the  topo2sql.exe
> > You can also do this from the GUI:  Programs -->
> > NetView --> Tasks --> Export
> > Topology, and the you can view it.
> > You can also automate the topo upload with the
> "at"
> > command I am told.
> >
> > 3. I thought there was a similar command to upload
> > snmpCollect data too (so that
> > the NT product would at least as much
> functionality
> > as the UNIX one with regard
> > to RDBMS) but as I don't deal with this on a
> regular
> > basis, I cannot confirm
> > that now.
> > Anyone else tried this?  Want to look in
> /usr/ov/bin
> > for a likely executable?
> > I could be wrong here but I urge you to go look
> > first.
> >
> > I know the User's Guide is very deficient in this
> > area but development decided,
> > when they could not get additional resources for
> > documentation updates for 5.1,
> > that they would provide function anyway, and try
> to
> > address the lack of doc in
> > the next one (5.2??).  Some of this function was
> > even available in 5.0a I
> > believe.
> >
> >
> > James Shanks
> > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
> >
> >
> >
> > Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/09/99 08:25:13 AM
> >
> > Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> > POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> >       <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> >
> > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> > cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> > Subject:  Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> > RDBMSes???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have the answer you probably
> don't
> > want to hear.  For the main databases under
> > \usr\ov\databases\openview, the format for the
> > ovwdb,
> > topology, and mapdb is the same as the older
> > versions.
> >  I did remember hearing from someone that it's
> still
> > in Btrieve format.  However, the event database is
> > in
> > RDBMS Compliant, it can be in either Access or MS
> > SQL
> > format.  I think Tivoli was trying to convert the
> > database to RDBMS, from the two other DSN
> > (snmpcollect
> > and Topology) it created in Windows ODBC Settings.
> > I
> > did query the those DSNs and notice it was empty.
> > In
> > theory, I think you can write the event database
> to
> > another RDBMS, but I haven't tested it.  With the
> > current version, I think the default MS Access
> > database is sufficient for storing the events.
> >
> > Xu He
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Don Seitz <don_seitz@INS.COM> wrote:
> > > I have been asked, and cannot find it
> specifically
> > > written out, but does
> > > Netview 5.1.1 on NT support any relational
> > > databases, like: Oracle,
> > > Sybase...etc?????
> > >
> > > Thanks for your clarification
> > > Don Seitz
> > >
> >
> > ===
> > Xu He
> > Consulting Services Engineer
> > Network Solutions, Inc
> > http://www.netsol.com/consulting
> >
>
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