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Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support RDBMSes???

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Subject: Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support RDBMSes???
From: Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:50:15 -0700
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Sender: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
James,

Actually, you didn't misled me.  PJ26414 describes
exactly my symptoms.  Here's what showing in my
nv.log.  I am sure you've seen this enough times.

07/13/99 10:00:10 [trapd] trapd caught exception,
attempting to recover
07/13/99 10:00:10 [trapd] exception in do purge
07/13/99 10:00:10 [trapd] trapd caught exception,
attempting to recover
07/13/99 10:00:10 [trapd] exception in do purge
07/13/99 10:00:10 [trapd] trapd caught exception,
attempting to recover

I guess I am getting two different sets of information
from you and Level 2.  The level 2 Engineer basically
told me to not use SQL according to the PJ26414.
Perhaps, because the knowledge base has not been
updated, he may not currently be aware of this fix.  I
will contact him again and see if I can get the new
trapd.

I truly appreciated the help.

Xu He


--- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> Now I am the one who is confused (perhaps I have
> been from the start).
>
> OK, let's start over.  If PJ26414 does not apply to
> you then what EXACTLY is the
> problem you are having?
> Does your trapd hang or loop with messages about
> do_purge or not?
>
> Perhaps I am wrong about the nature of the fix.   I
> did not produce it.  One of
> my colleagues did.  All I know for certain is that I
> had to help test the thing
> and test it we did.  The end result was that the
> trapd we put the fix in spent
> days in the verification lab getting thousands of
> traps sent to it and
> processing normally.   And it worked equally well
> with Access and SQL Server.
>
> So I recommended it basically as the latest version
> of trapd.  If I misled you,
> then I humbly apologize.
>
> As far as the chain of command goes, I am not
> certain what to say.  I have noted
> here before that to obtain efixes properly you have
> to get your problem to Level
> 2 NetView here in RTP.  They are the keepers of
> those things.  If you are
> outside the US, then your local group will likely
> not know anything about them,
> as they are still experimental.  If you are talking
> to Level 2 NetView, then you
> are in the right place and they should know what is
> going on.
>
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
>
>
> Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/12/99 04:51:26 PM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
>       <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject:  Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> RDBMSes???
>
>
>
>
>
> James,
>
> I check with support, the fix support suggested
> according PJ26414 was running Access instead of SQL.
> Are you sure there is a E-fix for it? Has the news
> of
> it propagated down the support chain?
>
> Thanks
> Xu He
>
> --- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> > The one I am talking about is called PJ26414.
> >
> > James Shanks
> > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
> >
> >
> >
> > Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/12/99 12:40:35 PM
> >
> > Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> > POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> >       <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> >
> > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> > cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> > Subject:  Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> > RDBMSes???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > James,
> >
> > Do you happen to know the exact E-fix number for
> the
> > event purging problem?  I am starting to have
> > problem,
> > with purging events, just after I upgraded to
> > version
> > 5.1.1, last week.  I've contacted support, and for
> > some reason, the engineer is not aware of this
> fix.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Xu He
> >
> > --- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> > > In my view the short answer to this question is
> > > "yes" and the long answer is
> > > (supposed to be) "at least as much as the UNIX
> > > version does, and more because
> > > events are kept there by default, in whatever
> > RDBMS
> > > your SQL Server/ ODBC
> > > drivers support".   At least that is how I
> > > understand it, and because  I am a
> > > real rookie with NT,  ODBC and all that, I urge
> > all
> > > those users familiar with
> > > that stuff  to respond.
> > >
> > > 1.  Events on NT are kept in a relational
> > database,
> > > either MS-Access (the
> > > default) or whatever RDBMS your SQL Server on NT
> > is
> > > configured for.    There was
> > > a problem with using SQL Server at 5.1.1 when it
> > > came time to do a purge, so
> > > some users stopped doing that and went back to
> > > MS-Access.  But this problem has
> > > been fixed and an efix is available from Support
> > if
> > > you need it.
> > >
> > > 2.  You can manually load topology up to that
> > RDBMS
> > > any time you want, according
> > > to my notes, by using the  topo2sql.exe
> > > You can also do this from the GUI:  Programs -->
> > > NetView --> Tasks --> Export
> > > Topology, and the you can view it.
> > > You can also automate the topo upload with the
> > "at"
> > > command I am told.
> > >
> > > 3. I thought there was a similar command to
> upload
> > > snmpCollect data too (so that
> > > the NT product would at least as much
> > functionality
> > > as the UNIX one with regard
> > > to RDBMS) but as I don't deal with this on a
> > regular
> > > basis, I cannot confirm
> > > that now.
> > > Anyone else tried this?  Want to look in
> > /usr/ov/bin
> > > for a likely executable?
> > > I could be wrong here but I urge you to go look
> > > first.
> > >
> > > I know the User's Guide is very deficient in
> this
> > > area but development decided,
> > > when they could not get additional resources for
> > > documentation updates for 5.1,
> > > that they would provide function anyway, and try
> > to
> > > address the lack of doc in
> > > the next one (5.2??).  Some of this function was
> > > even available in 5.0a I
> > > believe.
> > >
> > >
> > > James Shanks
> > > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/09/99 08:25:13 AM
> > >
> > > Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> > > POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> > >       <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> > >
> > > To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> > > cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> > > Subject:  Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> > > RDBMSes???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I have the answer you probably
> > don't
> > > want to hear.  For the main databases under
> > > \usr\ov\databases\openview, the format for the
> > > ovwdb,
>
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Xu He
Consulting Services Engineer
Network Solutions, Inc
http://www.netsol.com/consulting
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