Now I am the one who is confused (perhaps I have been from the start).
OK, let's start over. If PJ26414 does not apply to you then what EXACTLY is the
problem you are having?
Does your trapd hang or loop with messages about do_purge or not?
Perhaps I am wrong about the nature of the fix. I did not produce it. One of
my colleagues did. All I know for certain is that I had to help test the thing
and test it we did. The end result was that the trapd we put the fix in spent
days in the verification lab getting thousands of traps sent to it and
processing normally. And it worked equally well with Access and SQL Server.
So I recommended it basically as the latest version of trapd. If I misled you,
then I humbly apologize.
As far as the chain of command goes, I am not certain what to say. I have noted
here before that to obtain efixes properly you have to get your problem to Level
2 NetView here in RTP. They are the keepers of those things. If you are
outside the US, then your local group will likely not know anything about them,
as they are still experimental. If you are talking to Level 2 NetView, then you
are in the right place and they should know what is going on.
James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/12/99 04:51:26 PM
Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
<NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject: Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support RDBMSes???
James,
I check with support, the fix support suggested
according PJ26414 was running Access instead of SQL.
Are you sure there is a E-fix for it? Has the news of
it propagated down the support chain?
Thanks
Xu He
--- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> The one I am talking about is called PJ26414.
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
>
>
> Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/12/99 12:40:35 PM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject: Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> RDBMSes???
>
>
>
>
>
> James,
>
> Do you happen to know the exact E-fix number for the
> event purging problem? I am starting to have
> problem,
> with purging events, just after I upgraded to
> version
> 5.1.1, last week. I've contacted support, and for
> some reason, the engineer is not aware of this fix.
>
> Thanks
> Xu He
>
> --- James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> wrote:
> > In my view the short answer to this question is
> > "yes" and the long answer is
> > (supposed to be) "at least as much as the UNIX
> > version does, and more because
> > events are kept there by default, in whatever
> RDBMS
> > your SQL Server/ ODBC
> > drivers support". At least that is how I
> > understand it, and because I am a
> > real rookie with NT, ODBC and all that, I urge
> all
> > those users familiar with
> > that stuff to respond.
> >
> > 1. Events on NT are kept in a relational
> database,
> > either MS-Access (the
> > default) or whatever RDBMS your SQL Server on NT
> is
> > configured for. There was
> > a problem with using SQL Server at 5.1.1 when it
> > came time to do a purge, so
> > some users stopped doing that and went back to
> > MS-Access. But this problem has
> > been fixed and an efix is available from Support
> if
> > you need it.
> >
> > 2. You can manually load topology up to that
> RDBMS
> > any time you want, according
> > to my notes, by using the topo2sql.exe
> > You can also do this from the GUI: Programs -->
> > NetView --> Tasks --> Export
> > Topology, and the you can view it.
> > You can also automate the topo upload with the
> "at"
> > command I am told.
> >
> > 3. I thought there was a similar command to upload
> > snmpCollect data too (so that
> > the NT product would at least as much
> functionality
> > as the UNIX one with regard
> > to RDBMS) but as I don't deal with this on a
> regular
> > basis, I cannot confirm
> > that now.
> > Anyone else tried this? Want to look in
> /usr/ov/bin
> > for a likely executable?
> > I could be wrong here but I urge you to go look
> > first.
> >
> > I know the User's Guide is very deficient in this
> > area but development decided,
> > when they could not get additional resources for
> > documentation updates for 5.1,
> > that they would provide function anyway, and try
> to
> > address the lack of doc in
> > the next one (5.2??). Some of this function was
> > even available in 5.0a I
> > believe.
> >
> >
> > James Shanks
> > Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
> >
> >
> >
> > Xu He <xuhe@YAHOO.COM> on 07/09/99 08:25:13 AM
> >
> > Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and
> > POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> > <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> >
> > To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> > cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> > Subject: Re: Does Netview 5.1.1 on NT support
> > RDBMSes???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have the answer you probably
> don't
> > want to hear. For the main databases under
> > \usr\ov\databases\openview, the format for the
> > ovwdb,
> > topology, and mapdb is the same as the older
> > versions.
> > I did remember hearing from someone that it's
> still
> > in Btrieve format. However, the event database is
> > in
> > RDBMS Compliant, it can be in either Access or MS
> > SQL
> > format. I think Tivoli was trying to convert the
> > database to RDBMS, from the two other DSN
> > (snmpcollect
> > and Topology) it created in Windows ODBC Settings.
> > I
> > did query the those DSNs and notice it was empty.
> > In
> > theory, I think you can write the event database
> to
> > another RDBMS, but I haven't tested it. With the
> > current version, I think the default MS Access
> > database is sufficient for storing the events.
> >
> > Xu He
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Don Seitz <don_seitz@INS.COM> wrote:
> > > I have been asked, and cannot find it
> specifically
> > > written out, but does
> > > Netview 5.1.1 on NT support any relational
> > > databases, like: Oracle,
> > > Sybase...etc?????
> > >
> > > Thanks for your clarification
> > > Don Seitz
> > >
> >
> > ===
> > Xu He
> > Consulting Services Engineer
> > Network Solutions, Inc
> > http://www.netsol.com/consulting
> >
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