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Re: relational database support.

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Subject: Re: relational database support.
From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:25:56 -0400
That's right.  /usr/OV/scripts and a few other things are what you get when you
install the database component for NetView off the NetView CD.  This component
must be specially selected.  It does not install automatically.  Put the CD in
the drive, bring up the Tivoli Framework, and Install Product -- you should see
the database component if your scroll through your options

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support



"Boulieris, Arthur" <Arthur.Boulieris@NZ.UNISYS.COM> on 07/27/99 05:28:17 PM

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Subject:  Re: relational database support.





Thanks for your reply Ken,
I haave read all of this in the database guide manaual ,and think I
understand it what I have to do ,however it talks of scripts in
/usr/OV/scripts that need to be run to create tables etc.I have assumed that
I have to install a special database module or something to get those
scripts.Currently I dont have a /usr/OV/scripts directory?

regards Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Garst. [mailto:KGarst@GIANTOFMARYLAND.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 1999 02:35
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: relational database support.


Here is a previous answer that I gave that might help:



Ken Garst
06/16/99 11:50 AM

To:   Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
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cc:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
Subject:  Re: export SNMPcollect data to a RDBMS  (Document link not
converted)

This is not as simple as you might think.

First--you must configure NetView and the Tivoli framework to use a
relational
database.  You must set up what is called a "RIM server", i.e.
RIM=relational
interface module.  The RIM server does not have to be the TMR server nor the
NetView server.  In fact, the Tivoli manuals suggest that all 3 be on
separate
hosts.  (However, I have setup all 3 to be on a single host).

Second-You must setup a database server which, again, can be a separate
server
from the TMR server/NetView server/RIM server.  In case the database server
is a
separate host, you must set up a SQLNET client on the NetView server and RIM
server.  As you can tell, this can get tricky.  (In my case, the combined
TMR
server/NetView server/RIM host uses the Oracle dbms and therefore the TNS
listener is installed on this combined server.)

Third--The actual transfer of snmpCollect data is not "automatic" but rather
"snapshot" so that a crontab entry is necessary for updates.  Moreover, all
snmpCollect data goes into the same table in the database which can grow
quickly
depending on what you are collecting.

Fourth--The Tivoli framework provides you the SQL query facility at no cost
which is a GUI front-end to coding SQL procedures for queries.  This is a
very
slick little tool but does not allow much freedom in SELECT statements.

Fifth--I have open PMRs with Tivoli support on the RIM because the
snmpCollect
summary commands do not work because the RIM transfer is not populating the
VARINFO table but is populating the COLDATA table.  It turns out that this
was
because the variable being collected was a "calculated" parameter, i.e. disk
utilization, so that the VARINFO table wasn't populated.

(Incidentally, all this is on AIX 4.3.2 RISC/6000s, Tivoli framework 3.6,
NetView 5.1.1 and may or may not apply to NTs).

Regards,
ken
kgarst@giantofmaryland.com


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