Gord,
1) The Service Point implementation is 100% SNA - sorry, no TCP/IP. That is
why you need Communications Server - to do SNA. So, you need something like
a 3172 or a 3745 to get your SNA to and from the mainframe. Sorry again, but
NVSP is a seperate product from Communications Server and must be ordered
seperately.
2) Again, this is all 100% SNA.
I have done both the VTAM definitions and the Communications Server /
Service Point setup in the past for both Token Ring and now Ethernet SNA
communications. It was not the most fun I ever had, to say the least :-))
Blaine Owens
Eastman Chemical Company
Phone - (423)-229-3579
Fax - (423)-229-1188
bowens@eastman.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gord Michaels [SMTP:gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:44 AM
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
>
> Wow.
>
> Thanks for all the info.
>
> I have a few other questions however...
>
> 1. Our mainframes (running Netview for MVS) have a TCP/IP interface and of
> course a TCP/IP stack (I think my mainframe people called it OSA). So,
> after
> I install Communications Manager for AIX (I am assuming NVSP comes as part
> of this product ??) on my Netview 5.1.1 Server, is there anything I need
> to
> install on the mainframe side?
>
> 2. I am assuming that I send these SNA Alerts over IP, i.e. I do not need
> an
> SNA connection to the mainframe??
>
> Any info appreciated. I am completely foreign to the wonderful world of
> the
> Mainframe and SNA.
>
> Gord.
>
>
> >From: "Bill Evans" <wvevans@prodigy.net>
> >To: "Gord Michaels" <gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:07:12 -0400
> >
> >NVSP is an integral part of NetView for Unix on the AIX platform. It's
> >covered in the documentation as the daemons TRALERTD and SPAPPLD (Trap to
> >Alert Daemon and Service Point Application Daemon). Search the NV books
> >for those terms (lower case of course).
> >
> >Any details you want, drop me a note. As one comment put it, if you need
> >it
> >it's there, if you don't need to forward traps to NetView 390 as SNA
> Alerts
> >don't mess with it.
> >
> >In it's current form it will forward up to 3500 bytes of data in a very
> >specific format (SNA/MS Generic Alert) to NetVIew/390 or accept commands
> >forwarded by NetView/390 (again an architected format for the message)
> and
> >execute a pre-registered callback routine at the NetView for Unix end
> with
> >Stdout forward back as a reply. Logically it's equivalent to REXEC but
> >across an SNA network. It prereqs AIX SNA Services aka Communications
> >Manager.
> >
> >Customizing TRAPD will also allow you to identify how your trap is to be
> >formatted for NV/390.
> >
> >You won't find much on the web for NVSP. There's one poor soul still
> >supporting the code and some of us ex-IBM vets who remember the details.
> >The actual code was done on subcontract so there aren't even any
> developers
> >to chase down.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gord Michaels <gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM>
> >Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:31 PM
> >Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
> >
> >
> > >Thanks for the response,
> > >
> > >Do you know what the latest version of Netview Service Point is
> presently
> > >available for AIX 4.2.1? Or any good sources of info (i.e. Web sites,
> >etc.)
> > >where I can find additional info on this product??
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Gord.
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Owens, Blaine C" <bowens@EASTMAN.COM>
> > >>Reply-To: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> > >> <NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu>
> > >>To: NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> > >>Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
> > >>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:49:18 -0400
> > >>
> > >>We use this product. It's purpose is to provide exchange of
> information
> > >>between NetView for AIX and NetView on a mainframe system (MVS, VM,
> >etc.).
> > >>Using service point you may send alerts to mainframe NetView which
> will
> >be
> > >>in the format of MSUs (i.e. - NPDA alerts) or you can issue commands
> >from
> > >>the mainframe NetView system to NetView for AIX using RUNCMD. If you
> >don't
> > >>have a serious need for such an exchange you don't want it :-))
> > >>
> > >>Blaine Owens
> > >>Eastman Chemical Company
> > >>Phone - (423)-229-3579
> > >>Fax - (423)-229-1188
> > >>bowens@eastman.com
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Gord Michaels [SMTP:gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM]
> > >> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 2:31 PM
> > >> > To: NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> > >> > Subject: Netview Service Point...
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello All.
> > >> >
> > >> > Has anyone ever heard of a product called Netview Service Point??
> > >> > I am trying to understand where it fits with respect to Netview
> >(5.1.1)
> > >> > for
> > >> > AIX (4.2.1) and what functionality does it provide??
> > >> >
> > >> > Any information appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sincerely,
> > >> >
> > >> > Gord Michaels.
> > >> >
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