Regarding both this note and your question about Cisco Blue:
You have to decide if your focal point is at the mainframe or at the
rs/6000, as Blain discussed.
For going up, Netview for AIX does it with Comm Server AND Service
Point. Comm Server provides the SNA connectivity, Netview for AIX
tralertd daemon does the conversion, and Service Point communicates
with host Netview. You manage from the host.
For going down, the IBM solution, now largely unused, was SNA
Manager/6000. It required only Comm Server, and the host Netview
forwarded SNA alerts to SNA Manager/6000 daemons, which converted
the alerts to snmp trap format, and also provide graphical representation of
the SNA network in Netview for AIX. The Cisco Blue product was/is
a direct competitor to the later: that is, it is for sending stuff down from
the mainframe to the rs/6000 - graphics and alerts, converted to traps.
You manage from the risc.
If you want to send SNA alerts to the RS/6000 over IP, there must be
something on the mainframe to do the conversion from SNA-MS
(NMVTs or MDS-RUs) to SNMP (trap) protocols. I'm not sure what
there is to do that these days.
The current Tivoli Netview for MVS does have an adapter to send
alerts directly to the T/EC. That is strategic solution. Send all events
of all sorts to the T/EC and correlate them there. This would be done
using the proprietary Tivoli protocol (not snmp, as I understand it) over
IP. In this case part of the solution is provided by Tivoli Netview for 390
and part is provided by the T/EC.
Cordially,
Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Wow.
Thanks for all the info.
I have a few other questions however...
1. Our mainframes (running Netview for MVS) have a TCP/IP interface and of
course a TCP/IP stack (I think my mainframe people called it OSA). So, after
I install Communications Manager for AIX (I am assuming NVSP comes as part
of this product ??) on my Netview 5.1.1 Server, is there anything I need to
install on the mainframe side?
2. I am assuming that I send these SNA Alerts over IP, i.e. I do not need an
SNA connection to the mainframe??
Any info appreciated. I am completely foreign to the wonderful world of the
Mainframe and SNA.
Gord.
>From: "Bill Evans" <wvevans@prodigy.net>
>To: "Gord Michaels" <gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:07:12 -0400
>
>NVSP is an integral part of NetView for Unix on the AIX platform. It's
>covered in the documentation as the daemons TRALERTD and SPAPPLD (Trap to
>Alert Daemon and Service Point Application Daemon). Search the NV books
>for those terms (lower case of course).
>
>Any details you want, drop me a note. As one comment put it, if you need
>it
>it's there, if you don't need to forward traps to NetView 390 as SNA Alerts
>don't mess with it.
>
>In it's current form it will forward up to 3500 bytes of data in a very
>specific format (SNA/MS Generic Alert) to NetVIew/390 or accept commands
>forwarded by NetView/390 (again an architected format for the message) and
>execute a pre-registered callback routine at the NetView for Unix end with
>Stdout forward back as a reply. Logically it's equivalent to REXEC but
>across an SNA network. It prereqs AIX SNA Services aka Communications
>Manager.
>
>Customizing TRAPD will also allow you to identify how your trap is to be
>formatted for NV/390.
>
>You won't find much on the web for NVSP. There's one poor soul still
>supporting the code and some of us ex-IBM vets who remember the details.
>The actual code was done on subcontract so there aren't even any developers
>to chase down.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gord Michaels <gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:31 PM
>Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
>
>
> >Thanks for the response,
> >
> >Do you know what the latest version of Netview Service Point is presently
> >available for AIX 4.2.1? Or any good sources of info (i.e. Web sites,
>etc.)
> >where I can find additional info on this product??
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Gord.
> >
> >
> >>From: "Owens, Blaine C" <bowens@EASTMAN.COM>
> >>Reply-To: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> >> <NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu>
> >>To: NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> >>Subject: Re: Netview Service Point...
> >>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:49:18 -0400
> >>
> >>We use this product. It's purpose is to provide exchange of information
> >>between NetView for AIX and NetView on a mainframe system (MVS, VM,
>etc.).
> >>Using service point you may send alerts to mainframe NetView which will
>be
> >>in the format of MSUs (i.e. - NPDA alerts) or you can issue commands
>from
> >>the mainframe NetView system to NetView for AIX using RUNCMD. If you
>don't
> >>have a serious need for such an exchange you don't want it :-))
> >>
> >>Blaine Owens
> >>Eastman Chemical Company
> >>Phone - (423)-229-3579
> >>Fax - (423)-229-1188
> >>bowens@eastman.com
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Gord Michaels [SMTP:gord_michaels@HOTMAIL.COM]
> >> > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 2:31 PM
> >> > To: NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> >> > Subject: Netview Service Point...
> >> >
> >> > Hello All.
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone ever heard of a product called Netview Service Point??
> >> > I am trying to understand where it fits with respect to Netview
>(5.1.1)
> >> > for
> >> > AIX (4.2.1) and what functionality does it provide??
> >> >
> >> > Any information appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> >
> >> > Gord Michaels.
> >> >
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