For what it' worth, I've never encountered a discovery problem
that wasn't easily solved following the excellent procedures in
the Netview Diagnosis Guide...
Dave Dimond
Network Systems Management
Allina Health System
Minneapolis, MN
Adrian Spring wrote:
>
> James,
>
> Thank you for your support. Adding an Address from a range, is exactly what I
> did, but these where the only nodes NV discovered yet. I started NV without
> seedfile now, but didn't get any nodes (couldn't even discover it self yet).
> So
> i'll let it run this way tonight and let's see what happend. I guess the I
> have
> to search the problem somwherre else than ins seedfiles.
> I'll send you an update when the problem is solved (if you're intrested)
>
> Adrian
>
> James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> on 19.10.99 15:20:53
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc: (bcc: Adrian Spring/X/SN/Novartis)
>
> Subject: Re: using IP ranges in seedfile
>
> Adrian -
>
> The first thing I will tell you is that I am not an expert in fixing discovery
> problems, so I cannot comment on what you have done. I don't work in that
> area
> of the product. All I can do is suggest what to do based on my understanding.
> If you want further assistance you will have to open a problem to Support or
> ask
> a question for other users to comment on here. But what I am suggesting is
> that
> you put in the seed file, in addition to the address range, a few actual nodes
> in those subnets. When you put a node by hostname or IP address in the seed
> file you are telling netmon that you absolutely must have this node discovered
> and put on the map (if at all possible). That will force him to go out and
> find
> it if he can.
>
> So for your range 192.168.10.4-253, pick a node in the first subnet, let us
> say
> 192.168.10.9 for example, and put him in the seed file and restart netmon.
> If
> you have 5.1.1or later you can issue netmon -y and he will re-read the
> seedfile without a restart. Finding nodes in the seed file is the first thing
> netmon does after loading the topology and doing his config checks, so it
> should
> make a difference very quickly. If you have success with this, then follow
> the
> same procedure and add one node from each subnet. Once those are found the
> others in each subnet will follow very quickly. Note that I am not suggesting
> that you add all the nodes, just one from each subnet.
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
> Adrian Spring <adrian.spring@ITPRO-AG.CH> on 10/18/99 10:03:17 AM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject: Re: using IP ranges in seedfile
>
> James,
> sorry, this stupid question, but do you mean I just have to add such an
> address
> in the seedfile? If so, I have to tell you that I already did, but netview
> just
> got a single address yet (in 72 hours). Because of the arp cache thing, NV
> discovered all routerinterfaces connecting to these ranges, so I think there
> should be enough of arp informations aviable there. I also searched in all
> aviable documentations, and it seems that I did everything the way it's
> written
> there.
> Should I add the router interfaces for each range seperately?
>
> Adrian Spring
> IT-Pro AG
> Network Management Center Novartis
>
> James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> on 18.10.99 15:27:03
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc: (bcc: Adrian Spring/X/SN/Novartis)
>
> Subject: Re: using IP ranges in seedfile
>
> A range does not guarantee discovery, but rather limits it to addresses within
> the range. You will want to add the IP addresses of at least one actual
> machine
> in the subnets which you haven't found yet. New node discovery works on the
> principle that the arp cache of known machines will contain addresses of
> unknown
> ones.
>
> You might want to review the on-line doc on seed files, just type in dtext
> from
> the command line, assuming you have sourced the Tivoli environment ( .
> /etc/Tivoli/setup_env.sh ) first. You can search all the books dynamically
> but
> most of what you want is in NetView Installation and Configuration.
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
> Adrian Spring <adrian.spring@ITPRO-AG.CH> on 10/18/99 07:25:07 AM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView
> <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject: using IP ranges in seedfile
>
> Hi,
> I'm a newbie on this list, but already have a question. We have several NV
> installations, all using seedfiles, and all works fine. But on a new
> installation we tried to use ip ranges (192.168.10.4-253) in the seedfile. The
> problem is, that it dosvered just 2 ranges which are in the seedfile.
> any suggestions?
>
> Thanks
>
> Adrian
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