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Re: Unmanaged PCs turn up Managed every day???

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Subject: Re: Unmanaged PCs turn up Managed every day???
From: "Boyles, Gary P" <gary.p.boyles@INTEL.COM>
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 08:03:21 -0800
BTW -- we have seen this also every now-and-then.  Don't
know why or who caused it, but I find this note (and the incident)
interesting.
Regards,
Gary Boyles, Intel

-----Original Message-----
From: KG KG [mailto:kkg001@HOTMAIL.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:26 AM
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
Subject: Re: Unmanaged PCs turn up Managed every day???


Thanks for your advice Leslie and Dave!!

We are on NT 4.0 running Netview 5.1.

We have no seed file,  only one map.  To avoid rediscovery, we unmanage
nodes and do not delete them.

I am getting my customer to put these problem nodes in
\usr\ov\conf\offperiods.conf and making these nodes unmanaged 23.9 hours a
day!


Thanks, Kiran.




>From: Leslie Clark <lclark@US.IBM.COM>
>
>Kiran, be sure and tell us what platform you are runnng on.
>
>Netview does not (or is not supposed to) to this by itself. You may be
>doing it
>inadvertently by managing a higher-level object, like the network or
>segment
>that they belong to. Or you may have more than one map, and the user of
>another map is managing them. If it truly is doing this, call Support.
>
>I would take Dave's advice and not discover them if you do not intend to
>manage them. Exclude as many as you can by address range in the
>seedfile, and if that is not effective, exclude them by oid (on Unix):
>!@oid 0                              # exclude non-snmp things
>!@oid 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.*   # exclude Microsoft things
>
>Stop netmon, find the things you don't want (a collection is a good way to
>find them all at  once), Edit..Delete from all submaps; repeat on all maps
>if you have more than one; wait for the deletion events to hit the events
>display; ovtopofix -a; ovstart. And they won't come back.
>
>Cordially,
>
>Leslie A. Clark
>IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
>Detroit
>===============================================================
>
>Kiran,
>
>Either do one of two things:
>
>1.  Exclude these PCs in the nvseedfile for discovery.
>2.  If they have SNMP agents on the PCs, change the community string to
>something other than public.
>
>Dave
>
>P.S.  I would recommend step 1 as the one to go with.
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   KG KG [SMTP:kkg001@HOTMAIL.COM]
>         Sent:   Wednesday, December 22, 1999 12:03 PM
>         To:     NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
>         Subject:        Unmanaged PCs turn up Managed every day???
>
>         NV/OV Gurus,
>
>         We have a situation  where we do not want to manage a bunch of
>PCs.
>We have
>         them unmanaged.
>
>         Netview is changing the status of these PCs back to "Managed" and
>is
>         starting to generate Node Down events for these nodes.  I have
>been
>         unmanaging these PC's regularly, and Netview seems to be flipping
>the status
>         and I am getting tons of node down events for these PCs
>
>         Did anyone encounter a situation like this?? How did you keep
>Netview from
>         managing certain devices?
>
>         Wonder why Netview insists on managing certain devices.
>
>         Happy Holidays,
>         Kiran Goparaju
>
>
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