There is another option for Optivity running on AIX. Optivity 9.01 for AIX was
released in March and has the option to run independent of NetView/6000 or
integrated. The latest version has been completely rewritten in Java and has
major improvements over the 8.x versions. Worth taking a look at.
From: "Paul Sandler" <paul@swebs.com> on 04/20/2000 11:35 AM
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David,
Well said. I have inserted the code to start ExpandedView into the
right click mini-menu. Works great. I second the motion to delete as
much of the daemons from Optivity as you can.
As an aside, there was a great posting a few months ago re: Optivity
8.1.1 patches to get it to work on AIX 4.3. You must make these patches
if you even want Optivity to load.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: "David E. Dimond" <dimond@allina.com>
To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:57:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [NV-L] Pings to Unmanaged Devices
>Ronnie,
>
>Welcome to the wonderful world of Optivity.
>
>You don't mention what version of it you are running -- we got so
>fed up that we dropped support and are thus stuck at version
>8.whatever running under Netview v4. I had this same problem
>and killed not only the superping daemon, but the entire set of
>SA daemons. Including all the trap correlation stuff and returned
>port 162 to Netview where it belongs. My life has been much simpler
>ever since I let Netview do what it what designed to do and got
>all the uneeded Optivity hooks out of the system.
>
>We only use it to monitor our legacy shared infrastructure of s3000
>ethernet kit, and I have found - for our purposes - the only
>real useful pieces of Optivity to be Expandedview and Omniview.
>And these run just fine with only the 'opt_init' set of daemons.
>NodalView would be nice, but it's full of bugs and gotchas that
>Nortel won't even acknowledge, let alone fix. I've found everything
>else in the package to be functionally worthless unless you are
>100% homogenous SynOptBayTel. In which case you have my sincere
>sympathy...
>
>I'm currently bringing up a Netview v6 box and have discovered,
>much to my dismay, that the Optivity v8 won't work due to some
>as yet unknown problem syncing the Raima database to Netview.
>
>So I'm writing my own registration files to crowbar the relevant
>and useful pieces of Optivity straight into the Netview menu
>system which calls the apps from the command line. And all this
>works without any of the other Optivity bloat at all...
>
>Sorry for the rant -- you touched a nerve rubbed raw by four
>years of trying to get Optivity to do what its marketing
>literature claims doable. (And don't get me started on
>the Analysis package - what a nightmare...)
>
>regards,
>
>Dave Dimond
>Allina Health System
>(note that the views expressed above are mine and mine alone,
>and do not neccesarily reflect the opinions or attitudes of
>my employer...)
>
>ronnie.ross@springs.com wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. I found out it was NOT NetView doing the pings. It was
>Nortel
>> Optivity application superping daemon. Since we have Bay routers,
>Optivity
>> added them to its database and was pinging every interface on all
>routers
>> including the interfaces we use for dial backup. I guess it is not
>smart
>> enough to use NetView unmanaged state to NOT ping. Nortel says I
>can go
>> into the Optivity database and turn off the pings by subnet. I did
>not
>> know I had to do this. Does anyone know if I kill the super ping
>daemon if
>> the rest of Optivity will still work? As a quick fix to get the
>traffic
>> off our Internet circuit, that is what I have done
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>> Ronnie
>>
>>...leslie's as-usual wonderful reply snipped in the interest
>>of bandwidth efficiency as it already exists in archive...
>>
>> Sent by: owner-nv-l@tkg.com
>>
>> To: nv-l@tkg.com
>> cc:
>> Subject: [NV-L] Pings to Unmanaged Devices
>>
>> I have NetVIew 5.1.2 for AIX. Why does NetView ping every unmanaged
>node?
>> Most of the unmanaged interfaces are backup circuits. Since there
>is now a
>> default route out to the internet, these pings are eating up the
>bandwith.
>>
>> Ronnie
>>
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