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RE: Errors on netview startup

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Subject: RE: Errors on netview startup
From: "Treptow, Craig" <Treptow.Craig@principal.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:39:13 -0500
Thanks to Leslie and James, the ovtopofix -a did the trick!!

-----Original Message-----
From: lclark@US.IBM.COM [mailto:lclark@US.IBM.COM]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:31 AM
To: NV-L@tkg.com
Subject: Re: [NV-L] Errors on netview startup

When root user starts a map, the nv6000 (or netview) script uses the awk
command  on the output of the 'ps' command to do some checking on
processes that either are or are not running. It may be that your
system, there are just too many processes running since awk has a limit.
Not only does it check on the background daemons, it also checks for
leftover processes from map users, and cleans those up. That's what
the collmap message is about. If the system is under a lot of stress, some
foreground processes might not have closed down properly. Or if you
closed a map inproperly, or if it crashed, you might get these processes
left over. The restart is trying to clean them up.

Then there is mention of registered daemons that are not running. I am not
familiar with the tecad_ipfm daemon. It is apparently configured to start
but fails to start. It would be some tivoli process, from the name of it,
but it
is not part of the basic Netview product. You can ignore it from a Netview

As for the floating location objects: if the ipmap application is not
then location icons will be created as floaters. I suspect this is your
The ipmap process runs once per end user, and is configured to restart
Try deleting the thing, closing the map, and reopening it. Create the
icon again, and while you are in that dialog, verify that ipmap is in the
of applications which you can configure capabilities. (You should also see
xxmap and general capabilities, or something like that, listed). If ipmap
is there,
then the icon you create should be flat, indicating that it is managed by
Call Support if you cannot keep ipmap running. Check the nettl log (see the
man page for nettl and netfmt commands) to error messages that go along
with this problem. I would expect to see ipmap bailout messages. Time to
call Support.

There is a known bug with location icons you created using the
file. Those are created flat, but when you try to cut/paste into them, the
you move don't get moved, only copied, resulting in floaters. The bypass
this is to
  close the map
  ovstop netmon
  ovtopofix -a
before trying to use such a map. These are, by the way, your basic database
housekeeping steps, too.


Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking

---------------------- Forwarded by Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM on
06/22/2000 12:14 PM ---------------------------

"Treptow, Craig" <Treptow.Craig@principal.com>@tkg.com on 06/22/2000
10:48:02 AM

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Subject:  [NV-L] Errors on netview startup

Hi.  This is Netview v6r0 running on AIX 4.3.2.  I am very new to Netview
have just started seeing these errors when starting Netview from the

# netview
awk: 0602-535 Line "    root 13782 24294" cannot have more than 99 fields.
 The input line number is 9.
 The source line number is 3.
WARNING: One or more user interface applications are incorrectly parented.
    root  4780     1   0 08:58:26      -  0:00 /usr/OV/bin/collmap
kill -9  4780 collmap
awk: 0602-535 Line "    root 13782 24294" cannot have more than 99 fields.
 The input line number is 38.
 The source line number is 3.
portmap is already running
Starting Tivoli NetView daemons :
Daemon startup completed

WARNING: The following REGISTERED daemons are not running:

Starting user interface applications...
Thu Jun 22 09:33:36 CDT 2000
Please see /home/t022851/nv6000.log if you have startup errors.

Earlier I saw another error regarding awk and the number of fields.  Could
this be related to another issue regarding creating locations and having
end up in the "user plane" with shadows?  You cannot open them up as they
complain that they do not have a child submap.  There are no other
with the same names.  This behavior started with the errors mentioned
so I'm wondering if they are related?

Also, if this is related to any of the databases kept behind the scenes,
steps should I be taking to ensure the databases are in good shape?

Thanks for any help!

Craig Treptow
Principal Financial Group
I/S Network Administration
(515) 247-6207

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