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RE: ARP cache retrieval?

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Subject: RE: ARP cache retrieval?
From: lclark@us.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:41:06 -0400

Well, I cannot get any more specific about how it actually works and why,
because I do not really know and usually do not care.
When I want to minimize network impact, after I am sure I have a good
discovery,
I do these things:
Turn off speed node discovery (netmon configuration)
Turn off new node discovery (Options..Topology) , or schedule it for an
          infrequent interval (Options..SNMP)
Schedule configuration polling for an infrequent interval (Options...SNMP)
Reduce the number of routing table entries pulled from default of 800
(Options..
         SNMP).
Make sure I'm on V6.

If you are discovering more than you want, like PCs and printers, study up
on
seedfiles. You can exclude by snmp sysobject id.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
(248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager


"Treptow, Craig" <Treptow.Craig@principal.com>@tkg.com on 07/30/2000
12:04:47 PM

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Thanks Leslie!

Is this related at all to the "Discovery Polling" option in the SNMP
configuration?  I have shut that off in an attempt to address this issue as
well.

Also, can you speak to why Netview would want the ARP cache?  It seems that
it
will and has discovered all sorts of devices that we don't care about (PC's
and printers).  Couldn't discovery happen with just learning the routes
from
the routers?  Or am I way off base here?

-----Original Message-----
From: lclark@US.IBM.COM [mailto:lclark@US.IBM.COM]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 8:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [NV-L] ARP cache retrieval?




When you configure netmon, you will see an option to support secondary
addresses.
This is on by default in V6 (it was off by default in earlier releases). It
is required to be
on to support HSRP discovery and management. In certain kinds of network
configs
this retrieval of arp cache is pretty painful. You can reduce the pain by
reducing the
frequency of new node discovery. In 6.01 you will also see a new kind of
demandpoll
that just pings all of the interfaces and skips the expensive snmp polls.
If you are not
doing HSRP, and if your routers only have one address assigned to each
interface,
then you can probably live without secondary address support. I would not
turn it off,
however, until you were pretty satisfied with your basic network discovery.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

"Treptow, Craig" <Treptow.Craig@principal.com>@tkg.com on 07/28/2000
04:31:46 PM

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Subject:  [NV-L] ARP cache retrieval?



Hi.  We are running Netview v6 on AIX.  We just did a test by doing a
test->demand poll on a couple of routers and watched as their CPU
utilization
went to the high 90's and sometimes 100%.  It appeared to be the worst
during
the "Getting ARP table data for discovery of secondary interfaces" phase
(or
something close to that verbage).

Can we prevent this ARP cache dumping?  If we can, will it prevent
discovery
of new devices?

Also, where/how may I search the archives of this list?

Thanks for any help!

Craig Treptow
Principal Financial Group
I/S Network Administration
(515) 247-6207

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