I guess I thought ovtopofix -A would remove any
objects not on a map from the objects database,
but after several ovtopofix -A runs, a ovmapcount -a
or two, and a system reboot, I still have objects
in the database that are not on any maps, eg:
OBJECT: 41111
FIELD ID FIELD NAME FIELD VALUE
10 Selection Name "205.143.34.11"
11 IP Hostname "205.143.34.11"
75 IP Status Normal(2)
78 isIPRouter FALSE
105 vendor Unset(0)
116 isNode TRUE
.
.
.
Do these just stay around forever?
Les
>From: James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM
>Reply-To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] Deleting Objects
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:08:41 -0500
>
>Stephen -
>I cannot debug your problem exactly and I don't do netmon in general, but I
>will remind you I was not talking about adding a node back by loadhosts but
>having it discovered by netmon. Just because you delete a node does not
>prevent netmon from discovering it again, and if he thinks, for any reason,
>that the object he discovered is different from what he finds in the
>database then he will add a new object. Without doing a lot of
>ovobjprints to compare the objects and possibly getting a netmon trace
>during discovery, I am not sure how else to pin down exactly what happened.
>That's all I can tell you. This is not the area of the product I work on.
>
>
>James Shanks
>Team Leader, Level 3 Support
> Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
>
>
>
>Stephen Elliott <selliott@epicrealm.com> on 11/30/2000 10:17:49 AM
>
>Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>
>To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l@tkg.com>
>cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] Deleting Objects
>
>
>
>
>James, et al,
>
>Your reply is more than a bit confusing since I typically don't have to run
>ovtopofix to add back deleted nodes. Our DB is built entirely via
>loadhosts.
>I routinely delete all nodes for a site and add them back right away with a
>'loadhosts -m <mask> -v < filename' and have never had to run ovtopofix
>before doing so.
>
>Now having said that, let me explain what happened a couple days ago. I ran
>into the same problem Les did while doing my delete/add routine. The
>objects
>were deleted from the map and could not be located via Locate, Objects, by
>Selection Name or by IP Address, which indicates they have been deleted.
>Upon running loadhosts in verbose mode, tho, no new entries displayed to
>standard output as is normal and the load finished, stating that no new
>nodes were added. An ovobjprint -s against the node's site suffix showed
>all
>of them to be in the DB. Upon restarting the NetView GUI, all the nodes
>show
>up under the New Nodes line. Redeleting them all again without reloading
>them via loadhosts again showed them still to be in the DB and they again
>show up under the New Nodes line upon restarting the GUI.
>
>This is the first time this has happened. After duplicating it on several
>more sites, I restored the DB from backup and the problem went away.
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>Regards,
>
>Steve Elliott
>Sr. Network Mgmt. Engineer
>epicRealm, Inc.
>214-570-4560
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James_Shanks@tivoli.com [mailto:James_Shanks@tivoli.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:40 AM
>To: IBM NetView Discussion
>Subject: Re: [NV-L] Deleting Objects
>
>
>You need to do an ovtopofix -A to actually remove the objects from the
>database after you have removed it from the map. This is so that if you
>are removing it from the map only, and do not want it rediscovered, the old
>record will stay in the database and netmon will not add a new one, which
>you would then have to delete from the map.
>
>James Shanks
>Team Leader, Level 3 Support
> Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
>
>
>
>lesdickert@nsimail.com on 11/30/2000 08:23:11 AM
>
>Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>
>To: NV-L@tkg.com
>cc: (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
>Subject: [NV-L] Deleting Objects
>
>
>
>
>Running NetView 6.0.1 under AIX 4.3.2:
>
>I have only one map, and when I delete an
>object it doesn't get removed from the object
>database. I go to the submap with the object,
>highlight it, and do Edit->Delete Object from
>All Submaps. However, if I go to the command
>line and do ovobjprint -s <object name>, it is
>still there, but with no
>
> 14 OVW Maps Exists 1
> 15 OVW Maps Managed 1
>
>entries. From the map, if I do a Locate->Object, it
>can't find it.
>
>Problem is that I want to manually re-add the object,
>and it won't let me cause it claims the object already
>exists.
>
>Is this the way things are supposed to work or what am
>I doing wrong?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Les
>
>
>
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