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RE: New object additions

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Subject: RE: New object additions
From: James_Shanks@tivoli.com
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:45:06 -0500
Mike -

I don't normally work in this area of the product but I do know a little
something about it.  I am not familiar with "nvload" -- is that some kind
of alias for loadhosts?
I have been assuming that we have been talking about the normal discovery
process.

If you do an ovobjprint for an object and you see that there is a maps
managed and maps exist count of at least 1, then you should see an IP
Symbol list which designates which map it is in.  Note that I am talking
about the entire map and not a submap.  If all this information is in the
ovobjprint output and Locate cannot find it, are you sure you are on a
read-write map?  If not, then you need to do a refresh of that map to see
the new objects.   If you are on a read-write map, then I don't know what
to tell you.

You could close the GUI and do ovtopofix to try to bring things in synch if
that is the case.  The usual process is "ovtopofix -a" if you have more
than one map and "ovtopofix -A" if you have moe than one (again we are
talking about entire maps here -- NetView creates only one, "default" by
default, you had to create the others by yourself using the Copy command
from the GUI).  In this case, where things are not showing up on the map, I
would look at using the -u or -U flag to force it.  If all this sounds a
bit confusing, please examine the man page for ovtopofix.   Still doesn't
work?  Still cannot find your object on the map?  Then please open a call
to Support as I cannot provide any more guidance.

Hope this helps

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT



"Menefee, Mike" <MMenefee@neteffectcorp.com>@tkg.com on 02/21/2001 01:16:33
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James,
Back to the original problem I was experiencing while adding new nodes.....
After an nvload of an object, trapd records that it has been added, etc.
The obobjprint -s shows that it's in the database, however no mention of
which map it is in....The objects do not show up on the default map (I used
the locate command), nor on any other map....It has been suggested that
nvTurboDatabase command has been used to solve similar problems, but I'm
wary of using that command. Could this be a database size problem,
limitations in the number of nodes the map can display?? Any suggestions at
this point?

Thanks,
Mike

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From: James_Shanks@tivoli.com [mailto:James_Shanks@tivoli.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 11:10 AM
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I'll be you are being misled by what output says.  If you have only one
map, then the name of that map is "default", unless you chae nge.  Most
people don't because if you do then you have to specify what map name to
start with, or else NetView will create a new map and name it "default" as
well.
When you do ovobjprint -s <selection name> typically the last thing that
you see is an item which reads
<map name> IP Symbol List
If you have only one map then it reads
"default IP Symbol List"
When you have Map Exists and Maps Managed set to 1 then this device is on a
map  somewhere, and the IP Symbol List tells you what map it is in (though
not which submap).  To find it you have t bring up the GUI with that map
and do a Locate.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT


Stephen Elliott <selliott@epicrealm.com>@tkg.com on 02/21/2001 09:32:04 AM

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James,

Regarding ovobjprint showing what maps an object is in, I can't duplicate
that feature. The -s option with a node name or a -o with the object ID
show
me all the fields. I see OVW Maps Exists and OVW Maps Managed fields (both
set to 1) but nowhere in the list do I see a map name. ovtopodump doesn't
show this, either.

NV 6.0.1 on Solaris 2.6.

Regards,

Steve Elliott
Sr. Network Mgmt. Engineer
epicRealm, Inc.


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From: James_Shanks@tivoli.com [mailto:James_Shanks@tivoli.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 1:19 PM
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Are you on a read-write map?  If not, do a refresh.  If so ...
Try looking for it.  Do  Locate using the object name in the trap.  If it
is not found, try ovobjprint  -s <selection name> and see what you get.  It
should tell you what maps it appears in (either "default" or some other
name).   You found it in the database but it is still not there?    ipmap
batches things and does his updates every couple of minutes so as not to
always have te GUI say "synchronizing".   It may seem slow if you are
hovering there waiting for it. You could try forcing it by taking down the
GUI and restarting it.

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
 Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT


"Menefee, Mike" <MMenefee@neteffectcorp.com>@tkg.com on 02/20/2001 01:50:05
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running nv 6.0.1 on AIX 4.3.....
Just ran into a problem where a freshly added node has not appeared in the
New Object Holding area, or anywhere else on the map for that matter...the
trapd.log records it's addition, and the Events window is recieving traps
for it....any ideas where this may be or why it's not on the map?

Thanks,
MM


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