RE: autodiscover/nodiscovery

[JWhite <JWhite@PEC.com>]

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Actually, I have the workstations in my /etc/hosts file(10.1.1.50
demo-w-n-01).  And after having the autodiscovery on, wildcard IPs(10.1.*.*)
and exclusion of workstations(!*-w-*) in the seed file, netview still
discovered the workstations with their appropriate names (demo-w-n-01).

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Dickert [mailto:lesdickert@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:04 PM
To: nv-l@tkg.com
Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery


If you put a name type of entry
in the seedfile, like

!workstation*

the names will have to be in the
reverse DNS or NetView will find
the workstations by IP address and
keep them.  Also, you might have
to enter the domain name too if
your DNS returns such.  For example,
if the DNS returned (for an IP address)

  workstation1.company.com

then I would put

!workstation*.company.com

in the seedfile.

If the DNS returns only the hostname,
workstation1, then I would put

!workstation*

in the seedfile.

Actually probably wouldn't hurt to put both
in just to be sure.

But...the key point is...if the IP addresses
are not in the reverse DNS, then the name type
entries in the seedfile won't matter.  In that
case you'll have to put the workstation addressis
(or ranges) in the seedfile.

Les



>From: JWhite <JWhite@PEC.com>
>Reply-To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l@tkg.com>
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery
>Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:39:10 -0400
>
>I did read the admin guide regarding the seedfile.  However I've concluded
>that since I have to have "autodiscovery" check on, it doesn't look like I
>can omit workstations through the use of a seed file because they still got
>discovered.
>
>After trying the solution below with "autodiscovery" checked on, everything
>was discovered including workstations.  But when I tried with
>"autodiscovery" checked off, only the NetView box was discovered because in
>the manual it states on page 108, "If New Node Discovery is turned off,
>netmon ignores whether you specified groups of nodes in the seed file."
>
>Basically I was hoping that there was a way to use a "noDiscovery" file 
>that
>would list what not to discovery, because this was the case with OV.
>
>Thanks,
>-Jin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Davis, Donald [mailto:donald.davis@firstcitizens.com]
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:34 PM
>To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery
>
>
>You can use a negative hostname wildcard in the seedfile.
>Read the admin guide regarding the seedfile, hostnames and (negative)
>wildcards.
>My experience has been that negative wildcards MUST be a subset of a
>positive wildcard as in the example below.
>
>Example:
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>--------------
>
>10.1.*.*               # Discover all nodes on the 10.1.*.* network
>(required)
>!ws*                    # Exclude ws<abc.xyz.com>
>
>There are several ways to do this using various wildcards
>
>Don Davis
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JWhite [mailto:JWhite@PEC.com]
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:34 PM
>To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
>Subject: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery
>
>
>
>Is there a way to have auto discovery on, but have it limited to not
>discovering workstations if my workstation names follow a standard
>convention.  In other words is there a way to use a "noDiscovery" file that
>lists what not to discovery?
>
>Thanks,
>-Jin
>
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Actually, I have the workstations in my /etc/hosts file(10.1.1.50   demo-w-n-01).  And after having the autodiscovery on, wildcard IPs(10.1.*.*) and exclusion of workstations(!*-w-*) in the seed file, netview still discovered the workstations with their appropriate names (demo-w-n-01).

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Dickert [mailto:lesdickert@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:04 PM
To: nv-l@tkg.com
Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery

If you put a name type of entry
in the seedfile, like

!workstation*

the names will have to be in the
reverse DNS or NetView will find
the workstations by IP address and
keep them.  Also, you might have
to enter the domain name too if
your DNS returns such.  For example,
if the DNS returned (for an IP address)

  workstation1.company.com

then I would put

!workstation*.company.com

in the seedfile.

If the DNS returns only the hostname,
workstation1, then I would put

!workstation*

in the seedfile.

Actually probably wouldn't hurt to put both
in just to be sure.

But...the key point is...if the IP addresses
are not in the reverse DNS, then the name type
entries in the seedfile won't matter.  In that
case you'll have to put the workstation addressis
(or ranges) in the seedfile.

Les

>From: JWhite <JWhite@PEC.com>
>Reply-To: IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>To: "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l@tkg.com>
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery
>Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:39:10 -0400
>
>I did read the admin guide regarding the seedfile.  However I've concluded
>that since I have to have "autodiscovery" check on, it doesn't look like I
>can omit workstations through the use of a seed file because they still got
>discovered.
>
>After trying the solution below with "autodiscovery" checked on, everything
>was discovered including workstations.  But when I tried with
>"autodiscovery" checked off, only the NetView box was discovered because in
>the manual it states on page 108, "If New Node Discovery is turned off,
>netmon ignores whether you specified groups of nodes in the seed file."
>
>Basically I was hoping that there was a way to use a "noDiscovery" file
>that
>would list what not to discovery, because this was the case with OV.
>
>Thanks,
>-Jin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Davis, Donald [mailto:donald.davis@firstcitizens.com]
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:34 PM
>To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery
>
>
>You can use a negative hostname wildcard in the seedfile.
>Read the admin guide regarding the seedfile, hostnames and (negative)
>wildcards.
>My experience has been that negative wildcards MUST be a subset of a
>positive wildcard as in the example below.
>
>Example:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------------
>
>10.1.*.*               # Discover all nodes on the 10.1.*.* network
>(required)
>!ws*                    # Exclude ws<abc.xyz.com>
>
>There are several ways to do this using various wildcards
>
>Don Davis
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: JWhite [mailto:JWhite@PEC.com]
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:34 PM
>To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
>Subject: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery
>
>
>
>Is there a way to have auto discovery on, but have it limited to not
>discovering workstations if my workstation names follow a standard
>convention.  In other words is there a way to use a "noDiscovery" file that
>lists what not to discovery?
>
>Thanks,
>-Jin
>
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>This electronic mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>are intended solely for the use of individual or entity to whom they are
>addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible
>for delivering the electronic mail to the intended recipient, be advised
>that you have received this electronic mail in error and that any use,
>dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this electronic mail is
>strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail in error,
>please immediately notify the sender by return mail.
>
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>
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