RE: autodiscover/nodiscovery

[JWhite <JWhite@PEC.com>]

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My number one objective to keep autodiscovery turned on.

And I would also like to not discover workstations.

All workstations have "-w-" in their hostnames.  So I tried to use a seed
file with "!*-w-*", however the workstations were still discovered with
their appropriate hostnames (e.g. demo-w-n-01).



-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:40 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery


I don't understand what you tried that didn't work.
You can omit workstations by using their OID, their IP address range, or
their hostnames.
You can also put just what you want discovered in the seed file and add an
invalid range, such as
"3.3.3.*" and only those items which are explicitly included in the file
will we discovered.
So what exactly is it that you cannot get to work?

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT


JWhite <JWhite@PEC.com>@tkg.com on 07/27/2001 12:39:10 PM

Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>

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Subject:  RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery




I did  read the admin guide regarding the seedfile.  However I've concluded
that  since I have to have "autodiscovery" check on, it doesn't look like I
can  omit workstations through the use of a seed file because they still
got  discovered.

After  trying the solution below with "autodiscovery" checked on,
everything was  discovered including workstations.  But when I tried with
"autodiscovery"  checked off, only the NetView box was discovered because
in the manual it states  on page 108, "If New Node Discovery is turned off,
netmon ignores whether you  specified groups of nodes in the seed file."

Basically I was hoping that there was a way to use a "noDiscovery" file
that would list what not to discovery, because this was the case with  OV.

Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: Davis, Donald  [mailto:donald.davis@firstcitizens.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 26,  2001 5:34 PM
To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
Subject: RE:  [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery


You  can use a negative hostname wildcard in the seedfile.
Read  the admin guide regarding the seedfile, hostnames and (negative)
wildcards.
My  experience has been that negative wildcards MUST be a subset of a
positive  wildcard as in the example below.

Example:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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10.1.*.*                # Discover all nodes on the 10.1.*.* network
(required)
!ws*                     # Exclude ws<abc.xyz.com>

There are several ways to do this using various  wildcards

Don  Davis


-----Original Message-----
From: JWhite  [mailto:JWhite@PEC.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:34  PM
To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
Subject: [NV-L]  autodiscover/nodiscovery



Is there a way to have auto discovery on, but have it  limited to not
discovering workstations if my workstation names follow a  standard
convention.  In other words is there a way to use a  "noDiscovery" file
that lists what not to discovery?

Thanks,
-Jin

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My number one objective to keep autodiscovery turned on.

And I would also like to not discover workstations.

All workstations have "-w-" in their hostnames.  So I tried to use a seed file with "!*-w-*", however the workstations were still discovered with their appropriate hostnames (e.g. demo-w-n-01).

-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:40 PM
To: IBM NetView Discussion
Subject: RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery

I don't understand what you tried that didn't work.
You can omit workstations by using their OID, their IP address range, or
their hostnames.
You can also put just what you want discovered in the seed file and add an
invalid range, such as
"3.3.3.*" and only those items which are explicitly included in the file
will we discovered.
So what exactly is it that you cannot get to work?

James Shanks
Team Leader, Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT

JWhite <JWhite@PEC.com>@tkg.com on 07/27/2001 12:39:10 PM

Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>

Sent by:  owner-nv-l@tkg.com

To:   "'IBM NetView Discussion'" <nv-l@tkg.com>
cc:
Subject:  RE: [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery

I did  read the admin guide regarding the seedfile.  However I've concluded
that  since I have to have "autodiscovery" check on, it doesn't look like I
can  omit workstations through the use of a seed file because they still
got  discovered.

After  trying the solution below with "autodiscovery" checked on,
everything was  discovered including workstations.  But when I tried with
"autodiscovery"  checked off, only the NetView box was discovered because
in the manual it states  on page 108, "If New Node Discovery is turned off,
netmon ignores whether you  specified groups of nodes in the seed file."

Basically I was hoping that there was a way to use a "noDiscovery" file
that would list what not to discovery, because this was the case with  OV.

Thanks,
-Jin
-----Original Message-----
From: Davis, Donald  [mailto:donald.davis@firstcitizens.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 26,  2001 5:34 PM
To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
Subject: RE:  [NV-L] autodiscover/nodiscovery

You  can use a negative hostname wildcard in the seedfile.
Read  the admin guide regarding the seedfile, hostnames and (negative)
wildcards.
My  experience has been that negative wildcards MUST be a subset of a
positive  wildcard as in the example below.

Example:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10.1.*.*                # Discover all nodes on the 10.1.*.* network
(required)
!ws*                     # Exclude ws<abc.xyz.com>

There are several ways to do this using various  wildcards

Don  Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: JWhite  [mailto:JWhite@PEC.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:34  PM
To: 'IBM NetView Discussion'
Subject: [NV-L]  autodiscover/nodiscovery

Is there a way to have auto discovery on, but have it  limited to not
discovering workstations if my workstation names follow a  standard
convention.  In other words is there a way to use a  "noDiscovery" file
that lists what not to discovery?

Thanks,
-Jin

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