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RE: [nv-l] Query regarding MIB Data Collector of NetView 7.1.3

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] Query regarding MIB Data Collector of NetView 7.1.3
From: "Dejan Mijailovic" <dejan.mijailovic@inquent.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:03:19 -0500
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I agree here,
 
I think IBM should really concentrate in adding THE REAL and FULL support for SNMP V2 and SNMP V3, rather than adding so much Java stuff and not reviewing the foundation code for NetView. This is what the customer wants. First question they ask is "Does it support V2 and V3?". It looks like all IBM C programmers, working on NetView source code have quit :-).  Building that Java interface is nice and adding some scripts are fine too, but I think, by far the most important thing would be to add the FULL and COMPLETE support for SNMP v2 and v3. This is what sells the product.
Anyone agree with me?
 
Dejan Mijailovic
Inquent Technologies Inc.
-----Original Message----
From: Manish Purwar [mailto:manishp@in.niksun.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:27 AM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Query regarding MIB Data Collector of NetView 7.1.3

I will open a support request on this issue, and ask for an enhancement
request to be created to extend snmpv2 mib support in snmpcollect
as suggested by Todd. Then this will be a very useful application for
us.
 
Thanks a lot to Todd and Gareth for their useful suggestions!!!
 
Best regards,
Manish Purwar
-----Original Message-----
From: Gareth Holl [mailto:gholl@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:51 AM
To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
Subject: Re: [nv-l] Query regarding MIB Data Collector of NetView 7.1.3


snmpCollect would still need code added to handle all the new SNMP V2 data types, like Counter32, Gauge32, and so on. So as long as the data type is of the sort that snmpcollect can currently support, you should be ok on using a V2 MIB in a data collection. But this is NOT the case for all SNMP V2 MIBs, otherwise the GUI probably would have been updated by now. Support for v2 is not as simple as modifying the GUI from what I understand.


Gareth Holl
Staff Software Engineer
gholl@us.ibm.com

IBM Software Group - Tivoli Brand
Research Triangle Park,  North Carolina.



netview@toddh.net (Todd H.)

02/06/2003 12:38 PM
Please respond to nv-l

       
        To:        "Manish Purwar" <manishp@in.niksun.com>
        cc:        "NetView Forum" <nv-l@lists.tivoli.com>
        Subject:        Re: [nv-l] Query regarding MIB Data Collector of NetView 7.1.3



"Manish Purwar" <manishp@in.niksun.com> writes:

> Hello Everybody,
>
> We are presently working on Tivoli NetView 7.1.3.
>
> We are not able to use MIB Tool Builder and MIB Data Collector
> applications of Tivoli NetView for SNMPv2 MIB objects.

That's because they use the xnmbrowser--the snmp mib browser for the
snmpv1 mib hierarchy.


> Can we load SNMPv2 MIBs by selecting Tools?MIB?Loader SNMPv1
> so that MIB Tool Builder and MIB Data Collector applications can
> access SNMPv2 MIBs?

No.

> Or what else can we do to build new applications of MIB Tool Builder and
> MIB Data Collector for SNMPv2 MIB objects?

The data collector can be used if you hand code the OID into
/usr/OV/conf/snmpcol.conf The syntax is documented in the file itself
in comments.  Once you edit that file by hand, ovstop/ovstart
snmpcollect

While the mib collector uses snmpv1 PDU's to send its GET requests, it
all works fine because snmpv2 agents are required to respond to v1
requests.

It's unfortunate that NetView's GUI imposes this artificial
limitation.   If you feel as I do about it, open a support request on
tihs issue, and ask for an enhancement request to be created to extend
snmpv2 mib support in snmpcollect.  I see no reason why they couldn't
easily change the GUI to use the snmpv1/v2 mib database and the
xnmbrowser2 to do that selection instead.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

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