RE: [nv-l] Web Console ?

[Leslie Clark <lclark@us.ibm.com>]

In the java client, when you check that box, the events are filtered to just nodes that fall into that users scope. I've seen this work just fine.  That item in Don's append seems to indicate that unsolicited traps (as opposed to netview generated events) are not filtered by scope, but a test I just ran showed that those don't appear in the jave client event browser either. That is, the automatic filtering worked when I checked the box. 

Some clarification:
In the Admin Guide, discussions about 'management region' do not generally refer to the jave client scope. This terminology predates the client, and refers to whether or not a node is in your map. Think of each operator having a separate map covering his 'management region', but the Netview server is the trap destination for all devices in the network, whether they are in a particular map or not - in fact whether they are in any map at all. Traps from those devices will appear in an unfiltered events display (forwardall.rs) regardless of what map an operator is looking at. 

The java client scope and optional events scoping is a big step forward in this area, if you ask me. 


Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

"Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 11/10/2003 05:13 PM Please respond to nv-l

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Tivoli unix release notes v7.1 page 35
 
"All logical objects, (networks and segments) and physical devices (Routers, nodes, interfaces) beneath a particular scope's set of root locations and networks are treated as in scope and available for view in the submap explorer as well as for performing actions against in diagnostics, object peroperties, mib browser and event browser."
 
page 36
 
Event browser (if role is configured to filter this)
 
Events for out-of-scope nodes will not be displayed. See "Creating a new role" on page 38 for more information about scoping in the event browser"
 
page 38
 
3. If you want this role to use scoping in the event browser select enable scoping in the event browser check box.
 
 
I don't have time to test this but if memory serves me correctly, enabling that check box turns off the event browser entirely. Sounds to me like it should work.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com]On Behalf Of Davis, Donald
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:19 PM
To: 'nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Web Console ?

OK guys, you made me look it up .... novell concept eh....

This is copy/pasted right out of the Web Console Users Guide:  Chapter 6 - Page 43

Like I said before, you have to create a ruleset to restrict events.

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Understanding Events

The Tivoli NetView program uses the following types of events:

Map events

Notifications issued when a user or application does something that affects

the status of the current map or of the Tivoli NetView graphical interface.

For example, if you add a connection between a workstation and a server

on a submap, an event is generated and logged in the event log file. The

contents of the submap change to include the added connection.

Network events

Messages sent by an agent to one or more managers to tell them an event

has occurred that affects a network object. These events are not

necessarily reflected in the map. For example, if an SNMP agent is not in

your management region, but is configured to send traps to the manager,

you receive events for that agent, even though the agent is not displayed

on your map.

Tivoli NetView

Internal events are messages generated by Tivoli NetView applications.

Don

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Donald Davis
First Citizens Bank
Raleigh, NC.  27603-3526
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Caballero, Herman - Herman E [mailto:Herman.E.Caballero@lowes.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:29 PM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Web Console ?

I would make sense for it to work that way.  Why would a user want to see his screen filled with unrelated events?
 
Any comments from Tivoli support on this forum?  
 
Herman E. Caballero
Lowe's Companies, Inc.
Communication Services
(336) 658-4147
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On Behalf Of Barr, Scott
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:50 PM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Web Console ?
 
They are supposed to be tied together.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com]On Behalf Of Davis, Donald
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:36 PM
To: 'nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Web Console ?

Herman,
I believe you need to write a ruleset and apply it for that user to limit the events display.
I don't believe map scope and the events subsystem are related.

Don Davis
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Caballero, Herman - Herman E [mailto:Herman.E.Caballero@lowes.com]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:11 PM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: [nv-l] Web Console ?
 

Leslie,

When I set up a user on the Web Console with a specific Scope and Role.
Shouldn't he be seeing only events related to his scope? (ej Access
Points).

I have a user that has a map for his wireless access points, but he is
not interested in seeing events that are not related to his scope.  

I think I asked this before, so just a refresher.

Thank you,

Herman E. Caballero
Lowe's Companies, Inc.
Communication Services
(336) 658-4147

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