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RE: [nv-l] netmon.seed file

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] netmon.seed file
From: Michael Webb <mlwebb@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:54:40 -0500
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The DNS issue is an interesting one. I remember one time I configured my DNS to have different subnet ranges in different domains. This resulted in some routers having interfaces in more than one domain. This did cause NetView to behave strangely (or so I thought). You may also want to check whether or not the router interfaces are in the same domain.

You can perform the command, “nslookup router_name”, and see if all interfaces in the DNS show up. If not, then perform, “nslookup router_interface”, for each interface of each router in the portion of your network that you are testing with. Check for inconsistencies. Just a thought.

You may also want to check your local hosts file and see if there are any discrepancies with DNS entries for your devices you want to discover. Just another thought.

Does your NetView database show any signs of discovering anything? Are there useful log entries in netmon.trace?

Scott’s point on limited discovery is important. If you have one range, the discovery is limited to only what is in the seed file. So make sure that all necessary ranges are in the seed file.

Michael Webb, IBM Tivoli
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i would recommend to add in the seedfile your core routers. And the
networks or OID's you do not want to discover. With this i have normaly no
problem
with discovery. If things are not working as expected try to disable your
DNS on the netview server for a test. I had hudge discovery problems if the
DNS
is not working propery.


"Kevin Campbell" <kcampbell@tgen.org>@lists.us.ibm.com on 29.01.2004
16:34:37

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This is my initial install. I have tried using a number of wildcard
solutions including ranges (10.60.120-132 or 10.60.120.* or
10.60.120.1-255? etc).

I have rediscovered the network each time I put a new seed file in place.
The only time it discovers new devices is when they are set in the seed
file without any wildcards.

I am only testing a section of our network until I get things put together
properly. So a discovery is not that painful.

I have tried both vi and the gui.



I am stumped



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Anything is possible, including the fact that some traffic may be blocked
at certain routers in your network. However, have you ever been able to use
NetView to discover your network? I think you did say that if you put
individuals entries in the seed file that you can discover your network. So
that may put to rest any idea of the router causing the problem.

However, what about using ranges? For example, did you have a previous
release of NetView at one time that did discover the network with the seed
file that you have (using ranges)? Or, using your current version of
NetView, have you used a "different" seed file with ranges that did
discover the network?

Here is something else to consider. How are you creating and updating your
seed file? Are you using an ASCII editor or are you using the NetView GUI
seed file editor? I have seen unexplained behavior when I do not use the
NetView GUI editor to actually "create" the seed file. It could be because
I go back and forth between seed files in my test environment.

Nevertheless, if you are not using the NetView GUI editor to update your
seed file, then use the editor to open the seed file, make one update, and
then save it. Clear databases and rediscover. This has helped me a couple
of times here in the lab.

Michael Webb, IBM Tivoli
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I have tried this and numerous other wildcard entries. Nothing seems to
work. Could the network group be blocking any of this traffic at the
routers?

What is the difference in the traffic from discovery to specific IPs?

Thanks

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Try adding one specific IP address per subnet as an initial seed entry such
as:

10.60.180.x

where x is a valid IP address (like a router)

If that does not help to get that subnet discovered, then try a different
syntax for your range, like

10.60.180.1-255

instead of 10.60.180.*.

Regards,

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Yes. I have also added one and more of the routers into the seed file as
well. Still no luck
AIX 5.1
Netview 7.1.3 (fixpack 1 and 2)

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From: Barr, Scott [mailto:Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:48 PM
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Have you tried pinging a router within one of those subnets while discovery
is running?

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Subject: [nv-l] netmon.seed file
I have tried a number of configurations but can not get it to discover
devices the way I want them to. I have a number of subnets that I manage,
lets say (10.60.180.*-10.60.190.* and 10.60.120.*-10.60.132.*). I would
lick to have netmon auto discover anything on these subnets. The only way I
can get the devices to show up is to add each device into the seed file.
How can I get the devices to be auto discovered. I have tried what the
config docs say making my netmon.seed file look this:

10.60.180-190.*
10.60.120-132.*

But the only thing that gets discovered is the Netview server and the
default route. I have tried a number of others for example:

10.60.180.*
10.60.181.*
10.60.182.*

?and so on

But nothing other than specific IPs seem to be working

Any advice would be great
Thanks
KevinC












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