RE: [nv-l] More location.conf questions...

["Christopher J Petrina" <cjp8@meadwestvaco.com>]

Actually Leslie

They are stright-line Serial connects.   To every Site we have.  we have about 6 devices back here in Dayton that are our WAN Routers.  Each one has Multiple DS3 lines and each one is fractionally split out to represent each site.  We use a subnet mask of 255.255.255.252 to seperate out each site.  AMAZING I know.  but that is how we do it.  SO when I allow all the wan networks  to populate the IP Internet MAP (I am sure you know the _expression_ GIANT BALL OF YARN) well that is what I get and since this Netview AIX box has no video card we can only use XWindows to get into it and with that much in a single map it is impossible to Scale the window to see anything of any meaning.   But from the things I keep hearing, if I do not have all the proper interfaces  identified on every gateway I wish to make, then it will go into both the container I tell it to and it will "float" up to the!
  IP Internet Map as well.   I am going to try a one time populate by hand and then use the script to create a location.conf file based on the map.

Good Luck to Me
-Chris Petrina

Leslie Clark <lclark@us.ibm.com> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 02/26/2004 09:50 PM Please respond to nv-l

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I agree with Bill.   

Chris, in answer to the question of where the wan networks go, I would put them in the remote sites. I'm assuming you have bubble networks for these wans and not straight-line serial networks, right? Placing point-to-point networks is not usually necessary. In either case, if there is a problem with connectivity to the remote site, the line to it will turn yellow. 

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

"Evans, Bill" <Bill.Evans@hq.doe.gov> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 02/26/2004 07:04 PM Please respond to nv-l

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Philosophically, Chris, the HQ is such a state of mind it should be its own "State".  Not part of Dayton.   
  
That simplifies the hierarchical connectivity.  Top level map contains HQ and the regions.  Regions contain Countries and states.  If they all come back to the state of HQ on the IP Internet level it's perfectly clear what's going on.  Actually all you'll see on that level is four lines linking HQ to the regions.   
  
Within the regions you may wind up with isolated locations if there is no inter-location connectivity among the states/countries.  If you have Regional concentrators, though, there will be connections focusing on those regional HQ locations.  Alternatively, place the Network icons which bridge to HQ in the Regional containers.  The lines will be drawn between HQ and Regions.  Regions will go Red or Yellow when the associated link/network goes down. 
  
Do the same with the State/Country level.  Networks for the bridge to Region plus the locations for the sites.  Hierarchical connectivity will take care of itself and upstream connectivity will show when the network icons turn color.   
  
Try it.  I think your design problem has been in trying to stick too strictly to a geographic model.  Expose the hierarchy of the infrastructure (the state of Mind) and it should make it a bit easier. 
  
Bill Evans 
    
  
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From: Christopher J Petrina [mailto:cjp8@meadwestvaco.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [nv-l] More location.conf questions... 
  

Leslie, 

I guess the important requirements for Netview were left out of that.  I was stating how we get our information about devices.  It is an imperfect means of data but it is the closest thing we have to a central repository of devices. 

For Netview and location.conf details though here is what I want to Accomplish: 

The top layer IP Internet Map of Netview consists of Regions: MIdwest, NorthEast, International, etc.  Each are a Container that holds states/countries. Each state/country is also a location container that houses city location containers.   Each City name is a site. In each site I want that local sites LAN to be mapped.  from the border router that is the WAN/LAN device as top device and then all the segments and switches and networks within the site itself are all in that city container.   My WAN links are the biggest issue for tying sites together.   They ahve to basically come back to the HQ site in Dayton, Ohio (Which is a container in the State of Ohio,which is a container in the Region of Midwest).  Should I be placing my WAN networks between the containers? And at what level?  There are far too many of them to put on the Top IP Internet map.  It causes the Map to be very hard to understand. &nb! sp; However if I place them i!
 ! ncorrectly, accorrding to location.conf rules then I do not get the desired results I am looking for. 


Thanks 
Chris Petrina