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Re: BACK UP

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Subject: Re: BACK UP
From: James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:36:31 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Sender: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Thee only way that  /usr/OV/bin/nv6000_smit KILLEUIS could be dangerous to
a read-write map would if the user were in the middle of a cut-and-paste
operation.  If he had done the cut successfully and not completed the
paste, he'd lose the cut buffer and what he cut would have to be
re-discovered.  This is a very remote possibility.  As this command is how
the GUI is killed through SMIT, and has been for years, I doubt you have
much to worry about .

You can force users off through the security GUI but you can't do that from
a command line, so far as I know.  Since what
is wanted is a script for a cron job, /usr/OV/bin/nv6000_smit KILLEUIS, is
the only way I know of.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support


dorsey@COLQUITT.ORG on 06/11/98 06:58:56 PM

Please respond to NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU

To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:    (bcc: James Shanks)
Subject:  Re: BACK UP





Steve and others,

-> It is very easy to "correctly" bring down ALL NetView users on a system.
->     Run the command
-> /usr/OV/bin/nv6000_smit KILLEUIS.    It will close all NetView sessions.
->     After you do the /usr/OV/bin/ovstop,
->
-> [...]
->
-> Steve Hochstetler
-> Tivoli Professional Services

        nv6000_smit KILLEUIS stops user sessions by just
killing the ovw processes.  I have been under the impression
that, for read-write maps at least, this is not a completely clean
way of stopping EUIs.

        I've been further under the impression (although I don't
have much to go on here) that a cleaner way of shutting down
is to forceably log off netview users through the security
GUI.  (With security enabled, obviously.)  Can anyone at IBM/Tivoli
comment on these superstitions?

                        John

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