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Re: Problems installing Framework on v4.3

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Subject: Re: Problems installing Framework on v4.3
From: Leslie Clark <lclark@US.IBM.COM>
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:24:48 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Sender: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView et alia <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
The problem is that AIX 4.3 is not recognized as an 'interp-type' by Tivoli, so
I don't see how the older
framework would be any better. AIX 4.1 and 4.2 are both recognized as 4.1. To
install the framework (3.2)
on AIX 4.3, you need to pull the patch 3.2-TMP-0004 from the fp site
(ftp.tivoli.com/support/patches). NOTE
however, that the readme for this patch has bad, believable, typos in it. It is
not for the beginner. I would
pull it, and then call support and tell them you know about the typos and ask
them to point them out.
If everyone complains, then maybe the readme will get corrected!

Cordially,

Leslie Clark
IBM Global Services - Network & Systems Management - Detroit

---------------------- Forwarded by Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM on 07-13-98
11:44 PM ---------------------------


NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU on 07-13-98 07:33:43 PM
Please respond to simon@nettrack.com.au
To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
cc:
Subject: Re: Problems installing Framework on v4.3


Hi,

Thanks for all inputs made to this ongoing issue.

I spoke to our Tivoli person and the claim put to me is that TME 10 Framework
Version 3.1.3 is adequate for installation upon AIX V4.3.  Is this the case?

Regards,

Simon Long

Charles Boyce wrote:

> Simon, the CD you need is TME 10 Framework Version 3.2  Part number on CD is
> LK2T-6059-03.  (At least that's what I received.) Product number is
> 5697-FRA.  I had to order it through our rep and it was no cost.
>
> As for tiers, Tier 1 is the highest level of supported operating systems,
> such as AIX, Solaris, SunOS, HP-UX and NT.  Tier 2 is second level support
> operating systems like Digital Unix 3.2 and 4.0.
>
> I hope this helps you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Long <simon@nettrack.com.au>
> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> Date: Monday, July 13, 1998 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Problems installing Framework on v4.3
>
> >I have a framework CD ( TME10 Framework for UNIX 3.2/ 4.0A -
> >Version 3.1.1.     This is what I have been attempting to intall.  Am I
> going to
> >
> >be able to? - I seem to recall some problems mentioned with installing
> >the Framework tool at levels prior to 3.2 on AIX.
> >
> >What is this Tier 1, Tier 2 terminology?  I TMF tier 1, Netview Tier 2 ,
> MLM
> >Tier 3, etc -- is this the idea of the interpretation?
> >
> >Simon Long
> >Nettrack Technical Services Pty Ltd
> >
> >Charles Boyce wrote:
> >
> >> You are probably trying to install from the tier 2 CD.  Make sure you
> have
> >> the Framework CD.  I don't have the disks in front of me, so I don't have
> >> the part numbers.  NetView does not ship with the Tier 1 disc, but it is
> a
> >> no cost item.  Check with your rep.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Simon Long <simon@nettrack.com.au>
> >> To: NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
> >> Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 6:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Problems installing Framework on v4.3
> >>
> >> >I performed the steps suggested in the README file but am
> >> >no getting the following message when I run " ./wserver -c
> >> >/tmp/tmeCDROM":-
> >> >
> >> >using the interpreter type aix4-r1 as set in your environment.
> >> >exec(): 0509-036 Cannot load program
> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/bin/aix4-r
> >> >1/wserver_gui because of the following errors:
> >> >        0509-022 Cannot load library libtas.a[shr.o].
> >> >        0509-026 System error: A file or directory in
> >> >        the path name does not exi
> >> >st.
> >> >
> >> >Does anyone know what filesets/patches I may need to install to
> >> >satisfy this requirement?
> >> >
> >> >Simon Long
> >> >Nettrack Technical Services
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Cristina Zabeu wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> You have to install a patch to the Tivoli Framework before following
> the
> >> >> normal manual instructions. This is the README file for the patch. If
> >> >> you don't have the patch available in your CD, you may ftp it from
> >> >> "tivoli.com", as "anonymous". It is located under
> >> >> "support/patches/patches_3.2/3.2-TMF-0004".
> >> >>
> >> >> Hope this helps,
> >> >> Cristina Zabeu
> >> >> Tivoli Systems
> >> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Date:   Nov 14, 1997
> >> >>
> >> >> Patch:  3.2-TMF-0004
> >> >>
> >> >> Component: Tivoli Management Platform (TMP)
> >> >>
> >> >> Problems Fixed:
> >> >>
> >> >>         TME 10 3.2 Support for AIX 4.3 - Defect 30004
> >> >>                 failure to identify AIX 4.3 as interp aix4-r1
> >> >>                 due to a difference in the uname information.
> >> >>
> >> >> Architecture(s): AIX 4.3, aix4-r1
> >> >>
> >> >> Patches superseded by this patch:
> >> >>
> >> >>         None
> >> >>
> >> >> Patches this patch is dependent on:
> >> >>
> >> >>         TMF_32
> >> >>
> >> >> Database Changes:
> >> >>
> >> >>         None
> >> >>
> >> >> Patch Contents:
> >> >>
> >> >>         - This README file
> >> >>         - A new binary for TAS/INSTALL/install_engine
> >> >>         - A new version of /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/wserver
> >> >>         - A new binary for
> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/bin/aix4-r1
> >> >>           /wserver_gui
> >> >>         - A new binary for
> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/bin/aix4-r1
> >> >>           /wserver_cli
> >> >>         - A script, 3.2-TMF-0004.part1, to help install the new
> wserver,
> >> >>
> >> >>           wserver_gui, and wserver_cli files.
> >> >>         - A script, 3.2-TMF-0004.part3, to automate the third stage of
> >> >> this
> >> >>           patch process.
> >> >>
> >> >> Applying the Patch:
> >> >>
> >> >> NOTE -
> >> >> This is a 3 part patch.  Part 1 and Part 2 must be done on all
> machines
> >> >> that will serve as AIX 4.3 TMR servers.  Part 3 needs to be done on
> all
> >> >> non-AIX 4.3 TMR servers that will interface with AIX 4.3 ManagedNodes.
> >> >> The first two parts of the patch resolve issues that arise when trying
> >> >> to
> >> >> install an AIX 4.3 machine as a TMR server.  It allows AIX 4.3
> machines
> >> >> to operate as servers to ManagedNodes for all of the supported
> operating
> >> >>
> >> >> systems, including AIX 4.3 machines.  However, it does not resolve the
> >> >> problem of installing AIX 4.3 machines as ManagedNodes within TMRs
> that
> >> >> have non-AIX 4.3 servers.  In order to enable non-AIX 4.3 servers to
> >> >> have
> >> >> AIX 4.3 ManagedNodes, follow the instructions provided within Part 3,
> at
> >> >>
> >> >> the bottom of this document, "Installing AIX 4.3 ManagedNodes."
> >> >>
> >> >> _________________________________________
> >> >> Part 1 - Installing an AIX 4.3 TMR server
> >> >>
> >> >>     1)  On an AIX 4.3 machine that will become a TMR server:
> >> >>         First, issue the WPREINST.SH command, which will create some
> >> >> initial files within the /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle directory.
> >> >> The user MUST issue this command before applying the patch.  The
> >> >> wserver command that WPREINST.SH tells the user to execute will fail
> >> >> with the following message:  "Unable to guess system type.  Try
> setting
> >> >> $INTERP."  The patch will work correctly whether or not the user
> issues
> >> >> the wserver command.  In either case, the installation process halts
> >> >> prior to completion.  The 3.2-TMF-0004 patch fixes this problem.  The
> >> >> files that WPREINST.SH creates must exist on the AIX 4.3 system, so
> >> >> this command must be executed before the application of the
> >> >> 3.2-TMF-0004 patch.
> >> >>
> >> >>     2)  Acquire the 3.2-TMF-0004 patch
> >> >>         FTP the 3.2-TMF-0004.tar file to your machine. Place the
> >> >> 3.2-TMF-0004.tar file into a scratch directory.  For the purpose of
> >> >> this release note, assume that the symbol $PATCH points to this
> >> >> directory.  Due to the fact that the Tivoli Framework did not complete
> >> >> its installation, the 3.2-TMF-0004.part1 script must be run.  This
> >> >> script
> >> >> updates the wserver, wserver_gui, and wserver_cli files.  This portion
> >> >> of
> >> >> the patch process enables Tivoli to complete the installation process.
> >> >> In order to run 3.2-TMF-0004.part1, it must first be moved to the
> >> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle directory.  The following command
> >> >> sequence illustrates the necessary commands for completing Part 1 of
> the
> >> >>
> >> >> patch.
> >> >>         # cd $PATCH
> >> >>         # tar xvf 3.2-TMF-0004.tar
> >> >>         # mv $PATCH/TMF32004.part1 /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/
> >> >>         # /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/TMF32004.part1 -p $PATCH
> >> >>
> >> >> NOTE - The 3.2-TMF-0004.part1 script copies updated versions of
> wserver,
> >> >>
> >> >> wserver_cli and wserver_gui, from the directory specified with the -p
> >> >> parameter, into the correct locations within the
> >> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle directory structure.  If the user
> >> >> wishes, (s)he can manually accomplish this by copying the versions of
> >> >> these files obtained from the 3.2-TMF-0004.tar file to replace the
> >> >> corresponding files within the /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle
> >> >> directory structure.  The files to replace, for this example:
> >> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/wserver
> >> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/bin/aix4-r1/wserver_gui
> >> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/bin/aix4-r1/wserver_cli
> >> >>
> >> >>     3)  After the TMF32004.part1 script completes, the Tivoli platform
> >> >> installation can proceed.  From the
> >> >> /usr/local/Tivoli/install_bundle/ directory, issue the
> >> >> ./wserver -c <install path> command returned when WPREINST.SH
> finished.
> >> >> The Tivoli desktop will appear.
> >> >>
> >> >> _________________________________________
> >> >> Part 2 - The Post-Installation Patch
> >> >>
> >> >>     1)  The user must install the 3.2-TMF-0004 patch to complete the
> >> >> work for the AIX 4.3 update.  This patch can be applied via the GUI
> >> >> desktop interface or via the wpatch command.  Use the following steps
> to
> >> >>
> >> >> install the patch from the Tivoli desktop.  Refer to the manpage for
> >> >> wpatch
> >> >> if you wish to use a command line installation.
> >> >>         NOTE: You must have the install_product and super
> authorization
> >> >> roles to successfully install this patch.
> >> >>
> >> >>         a)  Select the "Install -> Install Patch..." option from the
> >> >>            "Desktop" menu to display the "Install Patch" dialog.
> >> >>
> >> >>         b)  Press the "Select Media..." button to display the "File
> >> >>            Browser" dialog.
> >> >>
> >> >>         c)  Enter the path to the directory containing the patch,
> >> >>             $PATCH, in the "Path Name:" field.
> >> >>
> >> >>         d)  Press the "Set Media & Close" button to return to the
> >> >>            "Install Patch" dialog.
> >> >>
> >> >>         e)  The patch install list now contains the name of the patch,
> >> >>             3.2-TMF-0004.  Select the patch by clicking on it.
> >> >>
> >> >>         f)  Select the clients to install this patch on. This patch
> >> >>             changes a binary and needs to be installed on any AIX 4.3
> >> >>             TME server.
> >> >>
> >> >>         g)  Press the "Install" button to install the patch.
> >> >>
> >> >>         h)  From the command line restart the Tivoli oserv using the
> >> >>             Tivoli odadmin command:
> >> >>
> >> >>             > /bin/sh
> >> >>             > . /etc/Tivoli/setup_env.sh
> >> >>             > odadmin reexec all
> >> >>
> >> >>             NOTE: This command shuts down the TME desktop and restarts
> >> >>             the Tivoli oserv on all managed nodes in the TMR.
> >> >>
> >> >> _________________________________________
> >> >> Part 3 - Installing AIX 4.3 ManagedNodes
> >> >>
> >> >> Non-AIX 4.3 TMR servers will not immediately support AIX 4.3 machines
> >> >> as ManagedNodes.  However, by following the steps outlined below, the
> >> >> TMR server will recognize and support AIX 4.3 as a ManagedNode.  If
> the
> >> >> server is an AIX 4.3 machine, then the following steps are not
> >> >> necessary because the 3.2-TMF-0004 patch enables the AIX 4.3 TMR
> server
> >> >> to
> >> >> support AIX 4.3 ManagedNodes.
> >> >>
> >> >> Note - The modification made in Part 3 will be lost if the database
> gets
> >> >>
> >> >> reset.  A reset of the database will not affect machines connected as
> >> >> ManagedNodes prior to the database getting reset.  However, it will
> >> >> prevent new AIX 4.3 ManagedNodes from being added to the TMR until the
> >> >> above command for Part 3 is re-executed.
> >> >>
> >> >> On the non-AIX 4.3 TMR server:
> >> >> 1.  The user must have the TMR role of "super" in order to execute the
> >> >> 3.2-TMF-0004.part3 script.  The script executes a series of commands
> >> >> that
> >> >> update the Tivoli database to support the use of AIX 4.3 machines as
> >> >> ManagedNodes.
> >> >>         # 3.2-TMF-0004.part3
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.  In order to make the TMR aware of the changes to the database,
> issue
> >> >>
> >> >> the following command, which will restart the desktop:
> >> >>         # odadmin reexec
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  Proceed with the standard steps for installing a ManagedNode.
> >> >>
> >> >> In order to make the necessary changes on a non-AIX 4.3 TMR server by
> >> >> hand:
> >> >>
> >> >> Note -  Please pay special attention to avoid making any typographical
> >> >> errors when entering these changes by hand.  If the data gets  changed
> >> >> to some information other than what is specified below, all AIX 4.x
> >> >> machines may exhibit irregular behavior.  These steps simply allow you
> >> >> to manually make the changes done by the 3.2-TMF-0004.part3 script.
> >> >> Therefore, unless the script can not be run on the non-AIX 4.3 TMR
> >> >> server
> >> >> for some reason, Tivoli recommends executing the script
> >> >> 3.2-TMF-0004.part3.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.  The first command will extract the Installation object's data and
> >> >> place
> >> >> it into a file so that you can make the desired modifications.
> >> >>         # idlcall `wlookup Installation` _get_data > /tmp/data.out
> >> >>
> >> >> 2.  Edit the following line, a little over half way into the file
> >> >> /tmp/data.out.
> >> >>         aix4-r1=^AIX [-A-Za-z0-9_+.]+ [12] 4
> >> >> and change it to
> >> >>         aix4-r1=^AIX [-A-Za-z0-9_+.]+ [123] 4
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  Issue the following idlcall command to replace the original
> >> >> Installation
> >> >> object with this new information.
> >> >>         # idlcall `wlookup Installation` _set_data < /tmp/data.out
> >> >>
> >> >> 4.  In order to make the TMR aware of the changes to the database,
> issue
> >> >>
> >> >> the following command, which will restart the desktop:
> >> >>         # odadmin reexec
> >> >>
> >> >> 5.  Proceed with the standard steps for installing a ManagedNode.
> >> >
> >

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