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Re: Netview Version 6

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Subject: Re: Netview Version 6
From: "Frank W. Hansen" <fhansen@ENTERPRISEINNOVATIONS.COM>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:15:33 -0400
Dean,

the xterm within the Tivoli desktop still requires something like an Xceed
on Windows to run.  Tivoli has ported a lot of the NetView utilities to AEF
so that you can run them from an NT Tivoli desktop.

Best Regards,

Frank W. Hansen
Tivoli Enterprise Certified Consultant

Enterprise Innovations
www.enterpriseinnovations.com
910 458 9172

----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Grant <dgrant@AHOLDUSA.COM>
To: <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Netview Version 6


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>
> Okay, maybe the differences between AIX and NT precludes and NT client for
> Netview. But Tivoli produces a Windows client for the Tivoli desktop that
> accesses AIX servers (X is supported as well). What is the fundamental
> difference between the two applications, say the TEC and NetView, where it
is
> possible to produce a Windows client for one, and not the other? What am I
> missing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM> on 09/28/99 03:02:24 PM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
NetView
>       <NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu>
>
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> cc:    (bcc: Dean Grant/AIS/US/Ahold)
> Subject:  Re: Netview Version 6
>
>
>
>
>
> I am not aware that anything is published about NetView V6.  If it is, it
will
> be on the Tivoli website.
>
> As for rumors, I'll leave those to other people, but I will comment on at
least
> some of your  items:
>
> >>   In particular, I'm looking for the following kind of info:
> >>- Client and Server interop.   Will we finally be able to connect an NT
> >>client to a UNIX server?
>
> I doubt this will ever happen, and for the same reason that you cannot
have a
> Digital UNIX server or client with its counterpart on AIX or Solaris.  The
> underlying operating systems are far too different.  The client-server
setup in
> NetView is simply an offload of the GUI to a different machine than the
one
> which runs the daemons.  But all the underlying system structure  and code
is
> the same.  But as the NT GUI is not an X GUI it will not likely ever be a
client
> to a UNIX machine, and vice-versa.
>
> With attended MLM however there has already been some movement toward
> integrating NT and UNIX.  But I would look for improvements to the web
interface
> rather than anything new in client-server.
>
>
> >>- NT function being implemented on UNIX (e.g. Smart Sets, the Explorer,
> >>Spray Pings)
>
> SmartSets are the NT term for Collections.  They already exist in UNIX.
And
> netmon on UNIX has a similar function to spray ping in the -J option.   As
for
> the Explorer, all I can say is that I have heard even the developers say
that
> they wished they had this feature, so maybe it will be ported.  The only
> statement I can make is that code and function convergence between NT and
UNIX
> is a priority acknowledged by the development manager.  What will actually
make
> it into the next version hasn't been formally announced yet.
>
> >>- UNIX function being implemented on NT (e.g. MLM configuration, APM,
> >>etc).
>
> Don't know what the future holds there.
>
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>
>
>
> Chris Cowan <chris.cowan@2ND-WAVE.COM> on 09/28/99 03:26:19 PM
>
> Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
NetView
>       <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
>
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU
> cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject:  Netview Version 6
>
>
>
>
> Has anything been published (e.g. Statements of Direction) concerning
> the features and functionality we can expect from Netview 6.x?
>
> In particular, I'm looking for the following kind of info:
> - Client and Server interop.   Will we finally be able to connect an NT
> client to a UNIX server?
> - NT function being implemented on UNIX (e.g. Smart Sets, the Explorer,
> Spray Pings)
> - UNIX function being implemented on NT (e.g. MLM configuration, APM,
> etc).
>
> Any pointers, or even rumors would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
> Chris
>
>


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