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Subject: Re: Events from unmanaged nodes
From: "Leslie Clark" <lclark@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:15:17 -0400
It looks to me like the interface is managed even though the box is
not.  Note that the TopM Inteface list shows that the interface has a
status of Up. That should say Unmanaged. At certain code levels,
and under certain conditions, it is possible that the 'unmanage' did
not soak all the way down to the interface level. I would make sure
you are at the latest code level, and then do some database
maintenance, and manage/unmanage those things again. I promise
you that you are not supposed to be getting Netview events about
unmanaged nodes. That's what Unmanaged means - netmon ignores
them.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

pweischer@MMM.COM@tkg.com on 05/14/2001 08:15:37 AM

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I use the 'default' map only. The events I am talking about are NetView
events.
What could be wrong?


Regards

Peter Weischer

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Event Monitor entry:
05/14/01 12:57:37 PM,Critical,DEDD100170,Interface 169.5.19.86 down.
CRITICAL,,1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.3,58916867,Netmon-related,

ovobjprint output:
D:\usr\nv_config>ovobjprint -s DEDD100170
                OBJECTID                SELECTION NAME


OBJECT: 660

        FIELD ID        FIELD NAME                      FIELD VALUE
        10              Selection Name                  "DEDD100170"
        11              IP Hostname                     "DEDD100170"
        14              OVW Maps Exists                 1
        15              OVW Maps Managed                0
        73              IP Status                       Unmanaged(5)
        76              isIPRouter                      FALSE
        99              IP Name                         "DEDD100170"
        103             vendor                          Unset(0)
        114             isNode                          TRUE
        116             isComputer                      TRUE
        117             isConnector                     FALSE
        119             isBridge                        FALSE
        120             isRouter                        FALSE
        121             isHub                           FALSE
        141             isDHCPClient                    FALSE
        147             isIP                            TRUE
        170             manually_managed                FALSE
        172             isSNMPSupported                 FALSE
        178             SNMPAgent                       Unset(0)
        215             TopM Interface Count            1
        221             TopM Interface List             "169.5.19.86 Down
169.5.19.86     255.255.248.0   <None>
   other               "
        244             XXMAP Protocol List             "IP"


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Let's be clear about this. If a node is unmanaged IN ALL MAPS, then
there will be NO interface up/down events generated. This is true on
NT as well as on AIX. If you are getting Netview events for unmanaged
nodes, you must therefore have more than one map, and the nodes
are managed in at least one of those maps.

If you have thousands of unwanted workstations, you can exclude
them from discovery by using a seedfile; you can also umanaged
them.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
Detroit

John Nicholson <jnicholson@epo.org>@tkg.com on 05/09/2001 06:05:33 AM

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I see the same on NetView 6.01 for NT; the only way I found to avoid
pinging
thousands of unmanaged workstations was to turn off discovery and delete
them.
On AIX, unmanaging nodes _does_ stop netmon pinging them - surely it is
supposed
to work the same way on NT?

Regards,
John Nicholson

pweischer@mmm.com wrote:

> Hello,
> in the event browser of NetView 6.02 for NT, I can see interface up/down
and
> node up/down events of unmanaged nodes. Is that correct?
>
> Regards
>
> Peter Weischer
>
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