Re: [nv-l] another list

[Jane Curry <jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk>]

OK - good news and bad news!

Good news is that NetView 7.1.4 does seem to be released.  I cannot see 
any manuals on the Tivoli documentation website, nor any code on the 
customer Passport Advantage site, but the code IS available to business 
partners on the Partnerworld site, along with TEC 3.9 - hopefully the 
other sites will catch up soon.
BAD news, as advertsied by Oliver earlier, is that the NetView 7.1.4 
Release Notes seem to be promoting an IBM newsgroup as a forum for users 
and no longer mentions this forum.
Any other input from nv-l users for or against this move to a newsgroup????

Cheers,
Jane

Jane Curry wrote:

> Anybody else think that this is a seriously bad idea???
> The nv-l list has been the NetView community list since day 1 and is 
> well known.  It seems like a VERY bad idea to split the community into 
> more than 1 group.
> Many organisation do not permit news through their firewalls - this 
> issue has been discussed several times in the past and has always been 
> the reason for maintaining some sort of mail list.
> How would we maintain a searchable archive - search facilities in Web 
> Browsers are nothing like as useful as we have on either the tme10 or 
> the nv-l archive..
> Comments?
> Jane
>
> Oliver Bruchhaeuser wrote:
>
> > no "nv-l"-reference in the new Release Notes .-(
> >
> > Oliver
> >
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> > |         |           Jane Curry             |
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> > Interesting that the upcoming product documentation references an IBM
> > news list that has virtually no traffic.  Does the documentation also
> > reference this nv-l list??
> >
> > If the Release Notes are written for 7.1.4, surely we are close to
> > announcement again - anyone know the latest target???
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jane
> >
> > Oliver Bruchhaeuser wrote:
> >
> > > from the NetView 7.1.4 Release Notes:
> >  
> >
> > > --------------------
> > > Participating in newsgroups
> > >
> > > User groups provide software professionals with a forum for 
> > > communicating
> > > ideas,
> > > technical expertise, and experiences related to the product. They are
> > > located on the
> > > Internet and are available using standard news reader programs. These
> > > groups are
> > > primarily intended for user-to-user communication and are not a
> > >   
> > replacement
> >  
> >
> > > for
> > > formal support.
> > >
> > > To access a newsgroup, use the instructions appropriate for your 
> > > browser.
> > > Use these instructions for a Microsoft® Internet Explorer browser.
> > > 1. Open an Internet Explorer browser.
> > > 2. From the Tools menu, click Internet Options.
> > > 3. On the Internet Options window, click the Programs tab.
> > > 4. In the Newsgroups list, click the Down Arrow and then click Outlook
> > > Express.
> > > 5. Click OK.
> > > 6. Close your Internet Explorer browser and then open it again.
> > > 7. Cut and paste the newsgroup address of a product into the browser
> > > Address
> > > field, and press Enter to open the newsgroup.
> > > Use these instructions for a Netscape Navigator browser.
> > > 1. Open a Netscape Navigator browser.
> > > 2. From the Edit menu, click Preferences. The Preferences window is
> > > displayed.
> > > 3. In the Category view, click Mail & Newsgroups to display the Mail &
> > > Newsgroups settings.
> > > 4. Select the Use Netscape mail as the default mail application 
> > > check box.
> > > 5. Click OK.
> > > 6. Close your Netscape Navigator browser and then open it again.
> > > 7. Cut and paste the newsgroup address of a product into the browser
> > > Address
> > > field, and press Enter to open the newsgroup.
> > >
> > > IBM Tivoli NetView for UNIX and IBM Tivoli NetView for Windows®
> > >
> > > news://news.software.ibm.com/ibm.software.tivoli.netview-unix-windows
> > >
> > > IBM Tivoli Enterprise Console®
> > >
> > > news://news.software.ibm.com/ibm.software.tivoli.enterprise-console
> > > --------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Oliver Bruchhaeuser
> > > Tivoli NetView EMEA L2 Support
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > |         |           "Pal, Laszlo"          |
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> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Is there any other mailing list/forum around Netview?
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > > Pál, László
> > > Network architect
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