Jane Curry wrote:
> OK - good news and bad news!
>
> Good news is that NetView 7.1.4 does seem to be released. I cannot see
> any manuals on the Tivoli documentation website, nor any code on the
> customer Passport Advantage site, but the code IS available to business
> partners on the Partnerworld site, along with TEC 3.9 - hopefully the
> other sites will catch up soon.
>
> BAD news, as advertsied by Oliver earlier, is that the NetView 7.1.4
> Release Notes seem to be promoting an IBM newsgroup as a forum for users
> and no longer mentions this forum.
>
> Any other input from nv-l users for or against this move to a newsgroup????
>
> Cheers,
> Jane
>
> Jane Curry wrote:
>
> > Anybody else think that this is a seriously bad idea???
> > The nv-l list has been the NetView community list since day 1 and is
> > well known. It seems like a VERY bad idea to split the community into
> > more than 1 group.
> > Many organisation do not permit news through their firewalls - this
> > issue has been discussed several times in the past and has always been
> > the reason for maintaining some sort of mail list.
> >
> > How would we maintain a searchable archive - search facilities in Web
> > Browsers are nothing like as useful as we have on either the tme10 or
> > the nv-l archive..
> >
> > Comments?
> > Jane
> >
> > Oliver Bruchhaeuser wrote:
> >
> >> no "nv-l"-reference in the new Release Notes .-(
> >>
> >> Oliver
> >>
> >>
> >> |---------+---------------------------------->
> >> | | Jane Curry |
> >> | | <jane.curry@skills-1st.|
> >> | | co.uk> |
> >> | | Sent by: |
> >> | | owner-nv-l-digest@lists|
> >> | | .us.ibm.com |
> >> | | |
> >> | | |
> >> | | 10.10.2003 11:33 |
> >> | | Please respond to nv-l |
> >> | | |
> >> |---------+---------------------------------->
> >>
> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> >> |
> >> |
> >> | To:
> >> nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
> >> |
> >> |
> >> cc:
> >> |
> >> | Subject: Re: [nv-l] another
> >> list
> >> |
> >> |
> >> |
> >> |
> >> |
> >>
> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Interesting that the upcoming product documentation references an IBM
> >> news list that has virtually no traffic. Does the documentation also
> >> reference this nv-l list??
> >>
> >> If the Release Notes are written for 7.1.4, surely we are close to
> >> announcement again - anyone know the latest target???
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jane
> >>
> >> Oliver Bruchhaeuser wrote:
> >>
> >>> from the NetView 7.1.4 Release Notes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> --------------------
> >>> Participating in newsgroups
> >>>
> >>> User groups provide software professionals with a forum for
> >>> communicating
> >>> ideas,
> >>> technical expertise, and experiences related to the product. They are
> >>> located on the
> >>> Internet and are available using standard news reader programs. These
> >>> groups are
> >>> primarily intended for user-to-user communication and are not a
> >>>
> >>
> >> replacement
> >>
> >>
> >>> for
> >>> formal support.
> >>>
> >>> To access a newsgroup, use the instructions appropriate for your
> >>> browser.
> >>>
> >>> Use these instructions for a Microsoft® Internet Explorer browser.
> >>> 1. Open an Internet Explorer browser.
> >>> 2. From the Tools menu, click Internet Options.
> >>> 3. On the Internet Options window, click the Programs tab.
> >>> 4. In the Newsgroups list, click the Down Arrow and then click Outlook
> >>> Express.
> >>> 5. Click OK.
> >>> 6. Close your Internet Explorer browser and then open it again.
> >>> 7. Cut and paste the newsgroup address of a product into the browser
> >>> Address
> >>> field, and press Enter to open the newsgroup.
> >>> Use these instructions for a Netscape Navigator browser.
> >>> 1. Open a Netscape Navigator browser.
> >>> 2. From the Edit menu, click Preferences. The Preferences window is
> >>> displayed.
> >>> 3. In the Category view, click Mail & Newsgroups to display the Mail &
> >>> Newsgroups settings.
> >>> 4. Select the Use Netscape mail as the default mail application
> >>> check box.
> >>> 5. Click OK.
> >>> 6. Close your Netscape Navigator browser and then open it again.
> >>> 7. Cut and paste the newsgroup address of a product into the browser
> >>> Address
> >>> field, and press Enter to open the newsgroup.
> >>>
> >>> IBM Tivoli NetView for UNIX and IBM Tivoli NetView for Windows®
> >>>
> >>> news://news.software.ibm.com/ibm.software.tivoli.netview-unix-windows
> >>>
> >>> IBM Tivoli Enterprise Console®
> >>>
> >>> news://news.software.ibm.com/ibm.software.tivoli.enterprise-console
> >>> --------------------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>>
> >>> Oliver Bruchhaeuser
> >>> Tivoli NetView EMEA L2 Support
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> |---------+---------------------------------->
> >>> | | "Pal, Laszlo" |
> >>> | | <laszlo.pal@eds.com> |
> >>> | | Sent by: |
> >>> | | owner-nv-l-digest@lists|
> >>> | | .us.ibm.com |
> >>> | | |
> >>> | | |
> >>> | | 09.10.2003 14:42 |
> >>> | | Please respond to nv-l |
> >>> | | |
> >>> |---------+---------------------------------->
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> |
> >>>
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>> | To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
> >>>
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>> | cc:
> >>>
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>> | Subject: [nv-l] another list
> >>>
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>> |
> >>>
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>> |
> >>>
> >>
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Is there any other mailing list/forum around Netview?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you
> >>>
> >>> Pál, László
> >>> Network architect
> >>>
> >>> EDS GOSD - Hungary
> >>> 1098 Budapest
> >>> Távíró utca 3-5
> >>> T: +36.1.347.5544
> >>> F: +36.1.347.5253
> >>> M: +36.30.445.0049
> >>> E: laszlo.pal@eds.com
> >>> ICQ: 948720
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tivoli Certified Consultant & Instructor
> >> Skills 1st Limited, 2 Cedar Chase, Taplow, Bucks, SL6 0EU, UK
> >> Tel: +44 (0)1628 782565
> >> Copyright (c) 2003 Jane Curry <jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk>. All rights
> >> reserved.
> >>
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> >
>
> --
> Tivoli Certified Consultant & Instructor
> Skills 1st Limited, 2 Cedar Chase, Taplow, Bucks, SL6 0EU, UK
> Tel: +44 (0)1628 782565
> Copyright (c) 2003 Jane Curry <jane.curry@skills-1st.co.uk>. All rights
> reserved.
Does this mean that IBM will require "Netview support folks like Jane and
James" to now only listen to the user group,
or both? I would think that IBM would have polled the user community FIRST
before implementing a new user group tool.
It is much easier to manipulate mail than user group info.
Leave a good thing alone.
Jeff Fitzwater
OIT Systems & Networking
Princeton UNiversity
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