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RE: [nv-l] How to permanently set nodes to unmanged state

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] How to permanently set nodes to unmanged state
From: Gareth Holl <gholl@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:11:30 -0400
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Glen,

Just want to cover two items to make sure they are not the cause of your problem:
1) Do a "ps -ef |grep netmon" and confirm that netmon is using the seedfile you are expecting it to use
2) Adding negative entries will not remove nodes that are already discovered. You would need to delete "object" from "all" submaps (and "all" maps if you have more than one) first.
3) netmon will not partial discover a device, so if a device as multiple interfaces and was discovered with an interface that is not negated in the seedfile, all interfaces will be discovered regardless of negative entries.

If netmon is truely using a seedfile with negative entries (and the nodes are not already discovered), netmon should not discover them.....if they are being wrongly discovered, then I would suggest turning on full netmon tracing, capturing the rediscovery of these devices, and providing the netmon.trace, trapd.log , and netmon seedfile to NetView Support to help you debug.

Cheers,

Gareth Holl
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Hi Paul,

I've actually tried putting them in both ways:

!10.10.10.25-35 (as an example)
or
!10.10.10.25
!10.10.10.26
!10.10.10.27
!10.10.10.28
etc

Neither seem to make Netview ignore them.  I am assuming the
#Workstations is a comment on the end of line for admin purposes - if
that is wrong please let me know.

Glen Warn
PEMCO Corporation Computer Services (PCCS)
glen.warn@pemcocorp.com
206-628-5770

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com]
On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:28 AM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [nv-l] How to permanently set nodes to unmanged state

Glen,
If its a range of addresses you can add something like this to the
seedfile:

!10.10.10.25-200 #Workstations

Or something like that. Im not sure how the "limit discovery" puts it
int the seedfile off the top of my head.

Paul


Glen Warn wrote:

>Hi Paul,
>
>Good point.  I've tried adding them to the netmon.seed "limit
discovery"
>but they still keep getting discovered.  Any ideas?
>
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>Glen Warn
>PEMCO Corporation Computer Services (PCCS) glen.warn@pemcocorp.com
>206-628-5770
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com]
>On Behalf Of Paul
>Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:10 AM
>To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
>Subject: Re: [nv-l] How to permanently set nodes to unmanged state
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>Glen,
>Why discover them in the first place?
>
>Paul
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>Glen Warn wrote:
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>>I have several remote access subnets (a few dial, some vpn) where
>>remote users are allocated DHCP addresses.  I do not want to manage
>>these nodes and set them to unmanaged - but Netview keeps setting them
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>>back to managed (and inevitably changes their state to down) - I
>>suspect because it detects the connection as new (different MAC
>>address perhaps) even though the IPs are the same.  Is there way to
>>permanently set a block of addresses to unmanaged?
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>>Netview 7.1.4
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>>Thanks for your time,
>>Glen Warn
>>PEMCO Corporation Computer Services (PCCS) glen.warn@pemcocorp.com
>><mailto:glen.warn@pemcocorp.com> 206-628-5770
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