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Re: Discovery Suggestion

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Subject: Re: Discovery Suggestion
From: Scott.Bursik@fritolay.com
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:39:34 -0500
I do not claim to be an expert with NetView but I have attempted the piecemeal
method that you have suggested. I have had trouble getting to objects in the
portions of the seedfile added in the beginning to discover when a route to get
there was further down in the seedfile. I thought it was better to not use a
seedfile for discovery (but I used OID exemptions for certain objects) and
created a Unmanaged Network Smartset to aid in the incremental discovery one
network at a time. With a large network, you end up doing all of the discovery
by creating your seedfile and I found that it was easy to miss new or unknown
networks. Just a thought.




CN=Leslie Clark/OU=Southfield/O=IBM <lclark@us.ibm.com>
10/21/2000 01:07 PM

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No matter what you do with the location file, if you start up Netview with
4000 routers, you will get at least 4000 dots on the IP Internet level  of
the
map. Remember that only the networks get cut into the locations. You
will have a really hard time cutting and pasting that.

You will have to discover the network piecemeal. So start segmenting your
seedfile now. Make lists of just routers, grouped by some reasonable
criteria. Geopgraphy maybe.  Include in each section a bogus range to
prevent
discovery of anything except what is in the seedfile. Only include as many
routers
as  you would want to see on the top map at one time. Like maybe 50?
Certainly less
than 100.  Note that when you have networks placed in locations for you,
the routers
left on the outside will result in extremely dense fans, which will make
them very difficult to
select. Prepare to select by name, with 'Locate...' and then
'View...Hightlights...Select
Highlights'.

Hubs, etc, are not an issue. They appear only at the lower levels of the
map so you
can put them in the seefile later.

Prepare to do this over several times until you figure out the best way for
you.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
(248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager


CHANCELLOR.D.ELLIS@customs.treas.gov@tkg.com on 10/20/2000 10:51:24 AM

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     I am running Netview 6.0.1 on AIX 4.3.3

     I have the IP addresses of all devices in a flat text file. I am
     looking for recommendations on how I go about building my map. I am
     fairly new to Netview and I am having trouble getting it to come up
     ok. I have just over 4000 routers and a whole slew of switches. There
     are a few workstations that I would like to manage, but not all of
     them.

     I had problems with my location.conf file. Tivoli has released an APAR
     and are currently working on a fix. Aparently, when you have a file as
     large as mine, over 2500 lines, ipmap cores every few seconds trying
     to keep up. As soon as this is fixed I think the location business
     will be fixed.

     I would like this process to be as automated as possible. Any
     suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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