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Re[4]: Discovery Suggestion

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Subject: Re[4]: Discovery Suggestion
From: CHANCELLOR.D.ELLIS@customs.treas.gov
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:49:46 -0400
     I have created the seedfile using vi.
     
     netmon loads the seedfile correctly according the netmon.trace.
     
     


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Author:  "IBM NetView Discussion" <nv-l@tkg.com> at smtplink
Date:    10/23/00 10:25 AM


     
        Are you manually manipulating the seedfile or are you using the
seedfile editor in the GUI/Serversetup? I have made errors on the seedfile 
when using GUI/text editors and the seedfile did not load correctly. I will 
usually verify my changes in the seedfile editor just to make sure that I 
don't have any errors. By doing this, netmon is stopped and restarted so the 
changes to the seedfile will be noted. I have not seen NetView continue to 
discover networks that were not specified by the seed file if it was created 
and loaded correctly.
     
     
     
     
     
     
        CHANCELLOR.D.ELLIS@customs.treas.gov 
        10/23/2000 08:39 AM
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             If I use a piecemeal seedfile, how do I keep it from 
discovering 
             networks that I haven't specified in the seedfile? 
             
             This is what has overwhelmed me before. I specify a small 
seedfile of 
             maybe 2 or 3 networks. I come back the next day and my map has 
fans 
             all over it.
             
             Also, Every router has at least 3 interfaces. Is it required 
that 
             Netview create a seperate object for each interface? Or can I 
             configure it so when an object is discovered it checks to see 
if the 
             object exists before creating it? That is one of the many 
confusing 
             parts for me.
             
             Thanks for all of your suggestions! 
             
             
     
     
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        Subject: Re: [NV-L] Discovery Suggestion
        Author:  "IBM NetView Discussion" <nv-l@tkg.com> at smtplink 
        Date:    10/21/00 2:07 PM
     
     
        No matter what you do with the location file, if you start up 
Netview with 
        4000 routers, you will get at least 4000 dots on the IP Internet 
level  of 
        the
        map. Remember that only the networks get cut into the locations. You
     
        will have a really hard time cutting and pasting that. 
             
        You will have to discover the network piecemeal. So start segmenting 
your 
        seedfile now. Make lists of just routers, grouped by some reasonable
     
        criteria. Geopgraphy maybe.  Include in each section a bogus range 
to 
        prevent
        discovery of anything except what is in the seedfile. Only include 
as many 
        routers
        as  you would want to see on the top map at one time. Like maybe 50?
     
        Certainly less
        than 100.  Note that when you have networks placed in locations for 
you, 
        the routers
        left on the outside will result in extremely dense fans, which will 
make 
        them very difficult to
        select. Prepare to select by name, with 'Locate...' and then 
        'View...Hightlights...Select
        Highlights'.
             
        Hubs, etc, are not an issue. They appear only at the lower levels of 
the 
        map so you
        can put them in the seefile later.
             
        Prepare to do this over several times until you figure out the best 
way for 
        you.
             
        Cordially,
             
        Leslie A. Clark
        IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking 
        (248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager
             
             
        CHANCELLOR.D.ELLIS@customs.treas.gov@tkg.com on 10/20/2000 10:51:24 
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             I am running Netview 6.0.1 on AIX 4.3.3 
             
             I have the IP addresses of all devices in a flat text file. I 
am 
             looking for recommendations on how I go about building my map. 
I am 
             fairly new to Netview and I am having trouble getting it to 
come up 
             ok. I have just over 4000 routers and a whole slew of switches. 
There 
             are a few workstations that I would like to manage, but not all 
of 
             them.
             
             I had problems with my location.conf file. Tivoli has released 
an APAR 
             and are currently working on a fix. Aparently, when you have a 
file as 
             large as mine, over 2500 lines, ipmap cores every few seconds 
trying 
             to keep up. As soon as this is fixed I think the location 
business 
             will be fixed.
             
             I would like this process to be as automated as possible. Any 
             suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
             
        
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