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RE: Copying Database from 601 to 602

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Subject: RE: Copying Database from 601 to 602
From: "Leslie Clark" <lclark@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:06:44 -0400
This looks like one of those deals where you mysteriously get a null
map along with your good map. It shows in an error message when
you do ovmapcount -a. After running 'mapadmin -u <hostname>' the
ovwls will show, as Jim's does, a map with no name, only a hostname.
Then you can delete it because you can now get a handle on it.
I would try 'mapadmin -f <hostname>', which will remove that 'map name'
from the internal database where maps are listed.

Cordially,

Leslie A. Clark
IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
(248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager



                                                                                
        
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Well, Jim, I am as puzzled as I can be.  Perhaps someone else has an
answer.  But I have personally seen databases moved from a 6.0.1 to a 6.0.2
box (Support does this kind of this all the time, but I haven't recently ).
So what can you do?  Well, you could try getting a new tar file from the
original machine and trying this again. You could also do "ovwls" on your
6.0.2 machine and see what it tells you.  It should give you back the
complete hostname of the box it thinks your map is on. I would expect it to
be fully qualified if you are using DNS.  Other than that, I am at a loss
to suggest anything except to call Support.  This isn't my area and I don't
understand why this is not working.

Sorry

James Shanks
Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software
IBM Software Group
Please note that my new id is jshanks@us.ibm.com



                                                                           
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/#mapadmin -l
Map Name            Map State      Mapdb Timestamp
--------            ---------      ---------------
default              Valid           976044453
/#mapadmin -u brkmsx02
/#mapadmin -u default:brkmsx02
/#





When I start Netview, I get the same error message ? "Could not open map:
default.  Map exists on machine:  5xx".



Jim Bingen
International Truck and Engine Corp.
Staff Specialist, Network Support Services
P(262)780-5345
F(262)780-5376
mailto:jim.bingen@nav-international.com






-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:55 AM
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Subject: RE: [NV-L] Copying Database from 601 to 602






Jim -

I was asking about the mapadmin command, not about reset_ci.  The error is
about the map.
As Steve Hochstedtler indicated, the relevant question is about the maps
themselves.
What do you get when you issue  mapadmin -l?
What do you get when you try  mapadmin -u <hostname>  or mapadmin -u
default:,hostname   ?


James Shanks
Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software
IBM Software Group
Please note that my new id is jshanks@us.ibm.com




                                                                           
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Netview 601 system -

ovstop

tar -cvf nvdb.bak01.tar /usr/OV/databases/openview

ovstart





Netview 602 system -

ovstop

pax -rp e -f nvdb.bak01.tar

/#/usr/OV/service/reset_ci



Start of reset_ci, after successful completion

you will receive a reset_ci finished message.





Reregistering /usr/OV/lrf/ovesmd.lrf...

ovaddobj - Static Registration Utility

WARNING: LRF record #3 conflicts with existing entry--not added. (OVs 1-17)


WARNING: LRF record #4 conflicts with existing entry--not added. (OVs 1-17)


Successful Completion



Reregistering /usr/OV/lrf/ovelmd.lrf...

ovaddobj - Static Registration Utility

Successful Completion



tmf_client_init: o_errs:0014 destination dispatcher unavailable

Unable to update the label for the NetView server icon.



reset_ci finished



/#

/#ovstart

/#ovstatus

object manager name: OVsPMD

behavior:            OVs_PMD

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 14728

exit status:         -



object manager name: ovwdb

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 16008

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: nvsecd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 14966

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: pmd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 4762

last message:        pmd completed initialization

exit status:         -



object manager name: OVORS_M

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 18062

last message:        orsd completed initialization

exit status:         -



object manager name: trapd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 18320

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: ovtopmd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 17548

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: trapgend

behavior:            OVs_NON_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 16350

exit status:         -



object manager name: mgragentd

behavior:            OVs_NON_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 17082

exit status:         -



object manager name: ovactiond

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 18580

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: nvcorrd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 18836

last message:        Initialization complete

exit status:         -



object manager name: nvpagerd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 14494

last message:        PMD initialization complete

exit status:         -



object manager name: actionsvr

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 20386

last message:        Initialization complete

exit status:         -



object manager name: nvserverd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 19358

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: nvcold

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 16772

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: snmpCollect

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 19098

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: nvlockd

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 17290

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: netmon

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 20218

last message:        Initialization complete.

exit status:         -



object manager name: C5d

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 29930

last message:        Initialization complete

exit status:         -



object manager name: ems_sieve_agent

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 29412

last message:

exit status:         -



object manager name: ems_log_agent

behavior:            OVs_WELL_BEHAVED

state:               RUNNING

PID:                 29670

last message:

exit status:         -



/#nv6000

portmap is already running

Starting Tivoli NetView daemons :

Daemon startup completed

Starting user interface applications...

Wed Oct 17 15:54:27 CDT 2001

Please see //nv6000.log if you have startup errors.

/#



At this point the Tivoli NetView screen comes up, it says Initializing...
accross the bottom, and when Opening Map comes up, I get a pop up window
that says "Could not open map: default.  Map exists on machine:  5xx"



When I click the OK button, both screens exit. I will include the
nv6000.log.







Jim Bingen

International Truck and Engine Corp.

Staff Specialist, Network Support Services

P(262)780-5345

F(262)780-5376

mailto:jim.bingen@nav-international.com





-----Original Message-----
From: James Shanks [mailto:SHANKS@us.tivoli.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [NV-L] Copying Database from 601 to 602




Then you may have to talk to support some more because mapadmin -u, if
entered correctly, should have fixed it.
There is no theoretical reason why data cannot be transported between 6.0.1
and 6.0.2, unless the original tar was bad.  And reset_ci also does the
mapadmin command under the covers so there is usually no reason to do it
afterward.

What exactly did you enter and what exactly did you get back?

James Shanks
Level 3 Support
Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software
IBM Software Group
Please note that my new id is jshanks@us.ibm.com




                                                                           
                                                                           
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I tried the mapadmin ?u command but it didn't help. I still received the
same error message.





-----Original Message-----
From: CATALINA MARTINEZ [mailto:CATALINA.MARTINEZ@tlc.state.tx.us]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 12:42 PM
To: nv-l@tkg.com
Subject: Re: [NV-L] Copying Database from 601 to 602



Jim,



you may try:



mapadmin -u mapname:hostname.



I moved my db from 6.0 to 6.02  and did not have this particular problem.
But I came across this command when I was searching this list on the
procedures to do it.



I dont know if it still works.



Catalina



>>> Jim.Bingen@NAV-INTERNATIONAL.com 10/17/01 11:46AM >>>
I am moving from Netview version 6.0.1 on AIX 4.3.3, to Netview 6.0.2 also
on AIX 4.3.3. I tried copying the database files using the tar/pax method
recommended by Leslie, did a reset_ci, did the ovw -fields/-verify/-config,

but I am getting the error "Could not open map: default. Map exists on
machine 5xx". I called support (PMR 78535,379) but they did not think I
could copy the database between versions 601 and 602.

Has anybody tried this? Any luck?

Thanks.


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