I certainly CAN hold Tivoli/IBM accountable. Until Tivoli was the keeper of
the list, they might have had some leeway. But now that Tivoli support is
maintaining the list (nice job Paul by the way) IBM and Tivoli security
policies should definately be in place. I can't understand why access to
this forum is even possible for people without registered support. (I know
this isn't the "official" support forum except that its now being maintained
by Tivoli support).
And to be honest - many of you have sent me emails asking about particular
issues or posts and I don't have a problem with that - we are here to help
each other. If you have a question, comment or complaint about NetView as it
relates to what I post here, I will gladly respond. When the purpose of your
communication is sales, you better stop at the door.
Paul has taken the appropriate action and I am satisfied with that.
-----Original Message-----
From: IMHOFF,MICHAEL (HP-Denmark,ex1) [mailto:michael_imhoff@hp.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:02 PM
To: Barr, Scott; 'nv-l@lists.tivoli.com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Magnum Management Software
Scott, I think Vince is right. The person from Magnum is probably on this
list and once you have posted a question or an answer your name is exposed.
I don't think you can blame Tivoli, IBM or the list keeper for this.
What we can do is to communicate this as unacceptable behavior and that
people will be expelled from the list if repeated.
Michael.
-----Original Message-----
From: Barr, Scott [mailto:Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com]
Sent: 7. februar 2002 19:24
To: 'nv-l@lists.tivoli.com'
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Magnum Management Software
While it is a great idea, it is not within my company's policies for
solicitors. And to be honest, if it were used for such purposes, I would
think Tivoli/IBM would be at risk of violating their own privacy policies or
their market relationships with other vendors of similar products. Allowing
this type of activity is consumate to endorsement of their product.
For the record, don't ever give anyone any information about me. Send ME the
name of the person who wants to contact me and I'm okay with that. I will
contact those I feel appropriate OR as in this case, I would forward the
inquiry to our procurement folks.
My concern is that Magnum - now in posession of my information, could easily
turn around and provide this information to another company. I'm one of
those people that religiously hunts down mailing lists and unsubscribes to
them. I am also one of those people that hunts down spammers and reports
them to their providers. This is inappropriate and it needs to stop. If not
for everyone, then at least for me.
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince_Rosso@transalta.com [mailto:Vince_Rosso@transalta.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:13 PM
To: Barr, Scott
Cc: 'nv-l@lists.tivoli.com'
Subject: Re: [nv-l] Magnum Management Software
Scott ... it's quite possible they subscribe to this same forum ... after
all anyone can. Seems to me it would be a great way to find people
that are in the network management field that might be interested in their
products.
Vince Rosso
Network Operations
TransAlta Utilities Corp
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