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Re: RE: [nv-l] MIB Bata Collector Problem and Very big snmpcol.trace

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Subject: Re: RE: [nv-l] MIB Bata Collector Problem and Very big snmpcol.trace
From: "Haibo Yang" <hbyang@sysway.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:7:35 +0800
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Thank you very much for your help.

In fact, I have noticed the problem with graphing. But I didn't realized that 
it is because of the holes on the collection.

Well, What should I do then? Seems that most of netviewrs let netview running 
on other platform, but Windows.

Should I consider to migrate my netview to linux or unix too?

Cordially

Bruce Yang
0086-755-26742343
hbyang@sysway.com


        

======= 2003-09-01 18:45:00 您在来信中写道:=======

>Another issue I found terrible, Netview for Windows does not graph data
>before a hole on the collection. You just have graph from the last
>continuous successful stream collection.
>I opened a call for support, and the answer was "Work by design" !
>ok...:/
>I moved for Netview/Linux.
>
>--
>Helder Garcia
>
>On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 06:07, Karl Prinelle wrote:
>> Bruce,
>>
>> I've had the same problem in the past on w2k netview & had to change
>> netview platforms.
>>
>> In my situation the routers being monitored were quite busy.  If the
>> device is busy and you send an snmp query to it, then it can simply
>> ignore your query since it has higher priority work to complete
>> (routing!).  Also, if you send a query for a large number of objects
>> then this can cause the query to be ignored too.  The combination of a
>> busy router and large (no metric for how large is large I'm afraid) snmp
>> query increases the chance of the query being ignored.  The result is
>> the deferred collection.
>>
>> You can reduce the snmpCollect deferred timeout value which is 1hr by
>> default.  This won't mean the deferrals will stop, just that snmpCollect
>> will try that query again in a shorter timeframe.  When I did this I
>> still ended up with large numbers of consecutive deferrals which created
>> large holes in my data.
>>
>> I was pointed at the maxpuds value which is available on Unix/Linux
>> netview versions (not available on windows) - have a search on the
>> archive for that for more info.  As a test I tried putting a Solaris
>> Netview in place, set the maxpdus to 40 and it all worked fine.  I've
>> tried w2k netview polling ~600 interfaces on two large but quiet routers
>> & it never completed a query - swapping to AIX/netview & maxpuds=50 &
>> all was ok.
>>
>>
>> hth
>>
>> K
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Haibo Yang [mailto:hbyang@sysway.com]
>> Sent: 30 August 2003 10:20
>> To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
>> Subject: [nv-l] MIB Bata Collector Problem and Very big snmpcol.trace
>>
>>
>> Hello List:
>>
>> Netview 7.1.3+Win2000 Server +MS SQL Server2000+ Popular Patches.
>>
>> There are currently more than 50 routers in my customers enviroment and
>> I have set the Mib datacolletor to collect data for all the CisocDevices
>> for avgBusy5, BandwitdthUtilHdx, ifInErrors, ifOutErrors, BitsIn,
>> BitsOut etc. which are all standard mib-2 OID or default Cisco OID or
>> MIB Expression provided by Netview. When I use sql to query the
>> collected data in sql2000, I find that for a Cisco 7507, there are more
>> than 300 entries for avgBusy5, but for some other cisco 3664, 3662 there
>> are much less entries and even there is none!!!
>>
>> And for only less than one week, the snmpcol.trace has grown into a
>> monitor with the size up to 400Mb. I can not open it with a notebook!
>> But I am quite sure what are recorded in the snmpcol.conf. it must be
>> something like this "Thur. Aug 14 15:29:39  : Deferring SNMP collection
>> of avgBusy5.0 on
>>         10.10.30.200 60 minutes (1.00 hours).  Consecutive deferral #1.
>> "
>>
>> How to make snmpcollect get data succefully every time it collects
>> configured OID values? If it can not do it successfully all the time, in
>> the following .conf, how to make the Deferal interval shorter to 5
>> minture?
>>
>> Collecting data correctly is very important in this scenario!
>>
>> The following is a sample snmpcol.conf
>>
>> ############## beginning ########################
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11 .* ifInUcastPkts pkts/sec COUNTER S hbyang
>>
>> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10000.000000 <= 50.000000  s 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17 .* ifOutUcastPkt units/sec COUNTER S hbyang
>>
>> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10000.000000 <= 50.000000  s 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14 .* ifInErrors errors/sec COUNTER R hbyang
>>
>> C smartset:Routers 0xffffffff 1800 > 10.000000 <= 90.000000  s 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20 .* ifOutErrors errors/sec COUNTER S hbyang
>>
>> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10.000000 <= 90.000000  s 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.11.1 0 snmpInPkts units/sec COUNTER S hbyang
>>
>> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10.000000 <= 70.000000  s 58720263
>>
>> MIB BandwidthUtilHdx .* BandwidthUtilHdx units EXPRESSION R hbyang
>>
>> C smartset:Routers 0xffffffff 1800 > 20.000000 <= 75.000000  s 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.58 0 avgBusy5 units INTEGER R hbyang
>>
>> C smartset:CiscoDevices 0xffffffff 1800 > 90.000000 <= 75.000000  s
>> 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.46 0 bufferFail units INTEGER R hbyang
>>
>> C smartset:CiscoDevices 0xffffffff 1800 > 0.000000 <= 0.000000 x s
>> 58720263
>>
>> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.6.9 0 tcpCurrEstab units GAUGE R hbyang
>>
>> C smartset:WebServers 0xffffffff 1800 > 0.000000 <= 0.000000 xA s
>> 58720263
>>
>> #################### End ##############################################
>>
>> Thank you all!
>>
>> Cordially
>>
>> Bruce Yang
>> 0086-755-26743243
>> hbyang@sysway.com
>>
>>
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        Haibo Yang
        hbyang@sysway.com
          2003-09-02




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