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Subject: RE: [nv-l] MIB Bata Collector Problem and Very big snmpcol.trace
From: Helder Garcia <helder@vanguard-it.com.br>
Date: 01 Sep 2003 18:45:20 -0400
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Another issue I found terrible, Netview for Windows does not graph data
before a hole on the collection. You just have graph from the last
continuous successful stream collection.
I opened a call for support, and the answer was "Work by design" !
ok...:/
I moved for Netview/Linux.

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Helder Garcia

On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 06:07, Karl Prinelle wrote:
> Bruce,
> 
> I've had the same problem in the past on w2k netview & had to change
> netview platforms.  
> 
> In my situation the routers being monitored were quite busy.  If the
> device is busy and you send an snmp query to it, then it can simply
> ignore your query since it has higher priority work to complete
> (routing!).  Also, if you send a query for a large number of objects
> then this can cause the query to be ignored too.  The combination of a
> busy router and large (no metric for how large is large I'm afraid) snmp
> query increases the chance of the query being ignored.  The result is
> the deferred collection.
> 
> You can reduce the snmpCollect deferred timeout value which is 1hr by
> default.  This won't mean the deferrals will stop, just that snmpCollect
> will try that query again in a shorter timeframe.  When I did this I
> still ended up with large numbers of consecutive deferrals which created
> large holes in my data.
> 
> I was pointed at the maxpuds value which is available on Unix/Linux
> netview versions (not available on windows) - have a search on the
> archive for that for more info.  As a test I tried putting a Solaris
> Netview in place, set the maxpdus to 40 and it all worked fine.  I've
> tried w2k netview polling ~600 interfaces on two large but quiet routers
> & it never completed a query - swapping to AIX/netview & maxpuds=50 &
> all was ok.  
> 
> 
> hth
> 
> K
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haibo Yang [mailto:hbyang@sysway.com] 
> Sent: 30 August 2003 10:20
> To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
> Subject: [nv-l] MIB Bata Collector Problem and Very big snmpcol.trace
> 
> 
> Hello List:
> 
> Netview 7.1.3+Win2000 Server +MS SQL Server2000+ Popular Patches.
> 
> There are currently more than 50 routers in my customers enviroment and
> I have set the Mib datacolletor to collect data for all the CisocDevices
> for avgBusy5, BandwitdthUtilHdx, ifInErrors, ifOutErrors, BitsIn,
> BitsOut etc. which are all standard mib-2 OID or default Cisco OID or
> MIB Expression provided by Netview. When I use sql to query the
> collected data in sql2000, I find that for a Cisco 7507, there are more
> than 300 entries for avgBusy5, but for some other cisco 3664, 3662 there
> are much less entries and even there is none!!!
> 
> And for only less than one week, the snmpcol.trace has grown into a
> monitor with the size up to 400Mb. I can not open it with a notebook!
> But I am quite sure what are recorded in the snmpcol.conf. it must be
> something like this "Thur. Aug 14 15:29:39  : Deferring SNMP collection
> of avgBusy5.0 on
>         10.10.30.200 60 minutes (1.00 hours).  Consecutive deferral #1.
> "
> 
> How to make snmpcollect get data succefully every time it collects
> configured OID values? If it can not do it successfully all the time, in
> the following .conf, how to make the Deferal interval shorter to 5
> minture? 
> 
> Collecting data correctly is very important in this scenario!
> 
> The following is a sample snmpcol.conf 
> 
> ############## beginning ########################
> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.11 .* ifInUcastPkts pkts/sec COUNTER S hbyang
> 
> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10000.000000 <= 50.000000 % s 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.17 .* ifOutUcastPkt units/sec COUNTER S hbyang
> 
> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10000.000000 <= 50.000000 % s 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.14 .* ifInErrors errors/sec COUNTER R hbyang
> 
> C smartset:Routers 0xffffffff 1800 > 10.000000 <= 90.000000 % s 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.20 .* ifOutErrors errors/sec COUNTER S hbyang
> 
> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10.000000 <= 90.000000 % s 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.11.1 0 snmpInPkts units/sec COUNTER S hbyang
> 
> W 10.10.10.* 0xffffffff 3600 > 10.000000 <= 70.000000 % s 58720263
> 
> MIB BandwidthUtilHdx .* BandwidthUtilHdx units EXPRESSION R hbyang
> 
> C smartset:Routers 0xffffffff 1800 > 20.000000 <= 75.000000 % s 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.58 0 avgBusy5 units INTEGER R hbyang
> 
> C smartset:CiscoDevices 0xffffffff 1800 > 90.000000 <= 75.000000 % s
> 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.1.46 0 bufferFail units INTEGER R hbyang
> 
> C smartset:CiscoDevices 0xffffffff 1800 > 0.000000 <= 0.000000 x% s
> 58720263
> 
> MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.6.9 0 tcpCurrEstab units GAUGE R hbyang
> 
> C smartset:WebServers 0xffffffff 1800 > 0.000000 <= 0.000000 xA s
> 58720263
> 
> #################### End ##############################################
> 
> Thank you all!
> 
> Cordially
> 
> Bruce Yang
> 0086-755-26743243
> hbyang@sysway.com
> 
> 
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