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RE: [nv-l] Same device multiple times - documentation

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] Same device multiple times - documentation
From: James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 14:23:38 -0500
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Product documentation is updated by IBM on a different schedule than is code.  This is not a new thing for the company nor for NetView.
It is perhaps unfortunate, but that is how things are.

I am sorry that you find it a nuisance, but the Release Notes is where doc updates will go until the formal manuals can be updated the next time.  The best practice is to check the Release Notes for each major level (e.g  7.1) and again for the latest FixPack you have ( for example, 7.1.3 FixPack2)  in addition to the formal manuals which were shipped with the product.   When you want to learn about something which is new to you, I recommend the formal manual first and then a quick look in the Release Notes for additions and changes.    

There was a full doc update for 7.1.4  so a lot of things that were in the Release Notes for 7.1 and later are no longer there, having been migrated into their proper places.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group



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Check the Netview v7.1 release notes. Pieces of the information about location.conf appear in the each of the release notes. The one you are asking about is page 17 (out of 114 acrobat PDF pages) in the NetView v7.1 release notes (called readme.pdf) in the doc folder on the Netview CD.
 
As a side note to any IBMers.... this is a frequently occuring problem where "documentation" is in the release notes. It's great you put the new features in there, how about updating the admin guide with that info before it gets shipped so it's in the manuals as well?
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Is there documentation that is as specific as what youa re describing that i can obtain and read somewhere?  The only rela documentation that I know forlocation.conf is the first half of the actual file itself in the commented out section.  Things such as how routers are defined and what all needs to be defined are not in the specs.  The things you talk about such as having to make sure all the different subnets have to be in the location.conf file would be helpful.  We rely heavily on the location.conf file for placement of all devices,  we have over 100 remote sites that need to be populated correctly from a seedfile without the use of auto discovery.


Thanks

Chris Petrina



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In order for location.conf to automatically place the router ALL subnets present on the device must be in location.conf container. If you have a router with 5 interfaces say in 4 different subnets (lets assume you have a pair of serial links to another location that are in the same subnet). all 4 of those subnets must be in location.conf container for that physical site. If you miss one subnet in location.conf the icon will float back to the ip internet map.

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Correct.   However using a fairly specific Location.conf file.  That device with the same name and ip addresses which shows up correctly in the submap that it should, also keeps showing up on the main IP Internet map.  Now if you are saying that because this device has multiple IP addresses that it will show up wherever that network segment is, then I can understand that and remedy that.

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Chris,

NetView places a device on the IP Internet submap, when a device has
multiple IP addresses in different IP subnets.

HTH

Bernard

>>> cjp8@meadwestvaco.com 23-02-2004 15:43:57 >>>
Me again,

Q1:  Why does entview continually find teh same device multiple times?
I
have a device that is already in one submap but it keeps finding it
again
and placing it ont he IP Internet map.   I have deleted it from that
submap, I have ran ovtopofix and ovmapcount and even after I delete it

once it is polling time again it just finds it again and places it back
on
the map again?

Anyone?
-Chris Petrina

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