RE: [nv-l] Same device multiple times - documentation

[James Shanks <jshanks@us.ibm.com>]

Product documentation is updated by
IBM on a different schedule than is code.  This is not a new thing
for the company nor for NetView.
It is perhaps unfortunate, but that
is how things are.

I am sorry that you find it a nuisance,
but the Release Notes is where doc updates will go until the formal manuals
can be updated the next time.  The best practice is to check the Release
Notes for each major level (e.g  7.1) and again for the latest FixPack
you have ( for example, 7.1.3 FixPack2)  in addition to the formal
manuals which were shipped with the product.   When you want to learn
about something which is new to you, I recommend the formal manual first
and then a quick look in the Release Notes for additions and changes.  
 

There was a full doc update for 7.1.4
 so a lot of things that were in the Release Notes for 7.1 and later
are no longer there, having been migrated into their proper places.

James Shanks
Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group

"Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com>
Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com

02/23/2004 01:48 PM

Please respond to
nv-l

To	<nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com>
cc
Subject	RE: [nv-l] Same device multiple times

Check the Netview v7.1 release
notes. Pieces of the information about location.conf appear in the each
of the release notes. The one you are asking about is page 17 (out of 114
acrobat PDF pages) in the NetView v7.1 release notes (called readme.pdf)
in the doc folder on the Netview CD.
 
As a side note to any IBMers....
this is a frequently occuring problem where "documentation" is
in the release notes. It's great you put the new features in there, how
about updating the admin guide with that info before it gets shipped so
it's in the manuals as well?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com]On
Behalf Of Christopher J Petrina
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:03 PM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: RE: [nv-l] Same device multiple times


Is there documentation that is as specific as what youa re describing that
i can obtain and read somewhere?  The only rela documentation that
I know forlocation.conf is the first half of the actual file itself in
the commented out section.  Things such as how routers are defined
and what all needs to be defined are not in the specs.  The things
you talk about such as having to make sure all the different subnets have
to be in the location.conf file would be helpful.  We rely heavily
on the location.conf file for placement of all devices,  we have over
100 remote sites that need to be populated correctly from a seedfile without
the use of auto discovery. 

Thanks 
Chris Petrina

"Barr, Scott" <Scott_Barr@csgsystems.com> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 02/23/2004 11:20 AM Please respond to nv-l

To:        <nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com>        cc:                Subject:        RE: [nv-l] Same device multiple times

In order for location.conf to automatically place the router ALL subnets
present on the device must be in location.conf container. If you have a
router with 5 interfaces say in 4 different subnets (lets assume you have
a pair of serial links to another location that are in the same subnet).
all 4 of those subnets must be in location.conf container for that physical
site. If you miss one subnet in location.conf the icon will float back
to the ip internet map. 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com]On
Behalf Of Christopher J Petrina
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 9:35 AM
To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [nv-l] Same device multiple times


Correct.   However using a fairly specific Location.conf file.  That
device with the same name and ip addresses which shows up correctly in
the submap that it should, also keeps showing up on the main IP Internet
map.  Now if you are saying that because this device has multiple
IP addresses that it will show up wherever that network segment is, then
I can understand that and remedy that.

"Bernard Disselborg" <BDisselborg@triple-p.nl> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com 02/23/2004 10:24 AM Please respond to nv-l

To:        <nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com>       cc:               Subject:        Re: [nv-l] Same device multiple times

Chris,

NetView places a device on the IP Internet submap, when a device has
multiple IP addresses in different IP subnets. 

HTH

Bernard

>>> cjp8@meadwestvaco.com 23-02-2004 15:43:57 >>>
Me again,

Q1:  Why does entview continually find teh same device multiple times?
I 
have a device that is already in one submap but it keeps finding it
again 
and placing it ont he IP Internet map.   I have deleted it from that
submap, I have ran ovtopofix and ovmapcount and even after I delete it

once it is polling time again it just finds it again and places it back
on 
the map again?

Anyone?
-Chris Petrina

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