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Sean,
Well, I have tried James idea using the formulas. This is what I have entered into mibExpr.conf IonTemp \ "IonTemp * 1" \ .1.3.6.1.4.1.3815.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.2. 1 * IonHumidity \ "IonHumidity * 1" \ .1.3.6.1.4.1.3815.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.2. 1 * IonSwitch \ "IonSwitch * 1" \ .1.3.6.1.4.1.3815.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.2. 1 * I have not seen anything triggered yet I set my thresholds artificially low to test and I would have expected to see something by now. Sean -----Original Message----- From: nv-l-bounces@lists.ca.ibm.com [mailto:nv-l-bounces@lists.ca.ibm.com] On Behalf Of Jane Curry Sent: February 8, 2008 8:29 AM To: Tivoli NetView Discussions Subject: Re: [NV-L] Thresholding on a mixed table of data? It is not a simple way to start but you will find that your SNMP data collections are actually held in /usr/OV/conf/snmpCol.conf. From memory, I think you will find that although you cannot specify more than one entry per MIB in the GUI, you will be able to have several lines per MIB ( one for each instance) if you edit this file directly. BACK UP THIS FILE FIRST BEFORE YOU TRY HACKING AROUND IN IT!!! It's a long time since I did this so if James comes back and says you can't do this - believe him! Cheers, Jane Sean Lawrence wrote: > Yes to put it simply I need to have the equivalent of a warn, critical, > fatal threshold for the same collected piece of data on the same > machine. > > We are running 7.1.5 on AIX 5.3, no DB2 > > We are using snmpCollect > > As far as starting simple I do not have that option. My customer's first > requests are always the most complex thing I can be required to do in a > tool. This is Murphy's law I guess. > > I had this fully developed using the ITM UA agent but the customer > didn't want to spend the money for a license. So it's off to Netview > just because it's paid for and can hopefully do it. > > Sean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nv-l-bounces@lists.ca.ibm.com > [mailto:nv-l-bounces@lists.ca.ibm.com] On Behalf Of James Shanks > Sent: February 7, 2008 5:16 PM > To: Tivoli NetView Discussions > Subject: RE: [NV-L] Thresholding on a mixed table of data? > > Hello Sean, > > Sorry, but you'll have to help me understand your environment before I > can > advise you. My assumption was that you had been doing simple data > collection before and now wanted to do something unusual. It's > customary > to walk before you can run. > > More specifics please, from the top. > What platform (UNIX/Windows) and Version (7.1.4/ 7.1.5) and Fixpack > level > of NetView?. > Are you running with DB2? > Do ovstatus. Are you using snmpCollect, or nvcollectord and nvpollerd, > to > do the collection? > > I was talking about good old snmpCollect, not the newer 7.1.5-only, > db2-dependent nvcollectord. They have different GUIs and different > requirements. > > But the same strategy still might work in either case It's true that > you > cannot define a simple MIB variable collection more than once, but > beside > simple variables, you can define MIB expressions, like Bandwidth > Utilization, which collect MIB variable data and massage it > mathematically. > I was explaining how to build a MIB _expression_ for snmpCollect which > would > allow you to do just what you said, set different thresholds on the same > MIB variable, for different instances. It's not easy because that was > not > part of the original design. Most vendors do not mix data types in the > same table. They have one table identified by its own OID for > temperature, > another one for UPS status, and a third for something else, if you > follow > me. > > If this is truly your first time doing data collection, then you should > probably start collecting some simple stuff you really don't care about > in > order to get the practice you'll need to do something out of the > ordinary. > Pick a couple of machines and start collecting Bandwidth Utilization. > Then > you can go examine the file which defines what Bandwidth Utilization > means. > > HTH, > > > James Shanks > Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows > Network Availability Management > Network Management - Development > Tivoli Software, IBM Corp > > > > > "Sean Lawrence" > > <Sean.Lawrence@ca > > ntire.com> > To > Sent by: "Tivoli NetView Discussions" > > nv-l-bounces@list <nv-l@lists.ca.ibm.com> > > s.ca.ibm.com > cc > > > > Subject > 02/07/2008 02:00 RE: [NV-L] Thresholding on a > mixed > PM table of data? > > > > > > Please respond to > > Tivoli NetView > > Discussions > > <nv-l@lists.ca.ib > > m.com> > > > > > > > > > > Ok that went completely over my head. I am using the gui for this as > this is the first time I have used netview to collect and threshold a > mib. > > I need different thresholds for a different instance of a mib variable > for the same IP. > > The vendor is using a single set of mib variables to dynamically track > things. The mib contains two variables a description variable and a > value variable. > > Netview is allowing me to use the Instances field to define which > instance I want to threshold against. The problem is I want to duplicate > this with different instance threshold parings. > > I cannot add another dataIntRegister to the collection list as I get > this error: > "Cannot add duplicate object this object is already collected as > dataIntRegister" > > If I try to add the same ip to the object collection summary I get the > message "A collection is already defined." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nv-l-bounces@lists.ca.ibm.com > [mailto:nv-l-bounces@lists.ca.ibm.com] On Behalf Of James Shanks > Sent: February 7, 2008 1:28 PM > To: Tivoli NetView Discussions > Subject: Re: [NV-L] Thresholding on a mixed table of data? > > I am not certain that I understand exactly what you want to do. Are the > thresholds independent of one another? Then you might be able to do it > using expressions. > > For example, suppose you were already collecting ifInDiscards > > MIB .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.13 ifInDiscards units COUNTER R > C jshanks1.raleigh.ibm.com 180 0.000000 0.000000 xA s 58720263 ALL - > > And you wanted to have a different threshold for some other machines. > You > could go to mibExpr.conf and create and _expression_ for that MIB variable > times 1, for example > > myifnDiscards1 \ > "ifnDiscards * 1" \ > .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.13. 1 * > > > myifnDiscards2 \. > "ifnDiscards * 1" \ > .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.13. 1 * > > Since these are expressions, which can use the same MIB variables as > other > expressions, and they have different labels, snmpCollect regards them > as > unique collections, and you can add both to your snmpCol.conf, even > through > the xnmcollect GUI. > > MIB myifnDiscards1 myifnDiscards1 units _expression_ R > C jshanks1.raleigh.ibm.com 3600 0.000000 0.000000 A d 58720263 ALL - > MIB myifnDiscards2 myifnDiscards2 units _expression_ R > C jhanks1.raleigh.ibm.com 3600 0.000000 0.000000 A d 58720263 ALL - > > > HTH > > James Shanks > Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and Windows > Network Availability Management > Network Management - Development > Tivoli Software, IBM Corp > > _______________________________________________ > NV-L mailing list > NV-L@lists.ca.ibm.com > Unsubscribe:NV-L-leave@lists.ca.ibm.com > http://lists.ca.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/nv-l (Browser access limited to > internal IBM'ers only) > > _______________________________________________ > NV-L mailing list > NV-L@lists.ca.ibm.com > Unsubscribe:NV-L-leave@lists.ca.ibm.com > http://lists.ca.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/nv-l (Browser access limited to > internal IBM'ers only) > > > _______________________________________________ > NV-L mailing list > NV-L@lists.ca.ibm.com > Unsubscribe:NV-L-leave@lists.ca.ibm.com > http://lists.ca.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/nv-l (Browser access limited to > internal IBM'ers only) > > _______________________________________________ > NV-L mailing list > NV-L@lists.ca.ibm.com > Unsubscribe:NV-L-leave@lists.ca.ibm.com > http://lists.ca.ibm.com/mailman/listinfo/nv-l (Browser access limited to internal IBM'ers only) > -- Tivoli Certified Consultant & Instructor Skills 1st Limited, 2 Cedar Chase, Taplow, Bucks, SL6 0EU, UK. 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