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RE: [nv-l] NetView vs. OpenView

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Subject: RE: [nv-l] NetView vs. OpenView
From: ADAMCZYK Herbert <herbert.adamczyk@it-austria.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 23:38:12 +0200
Eric,

- basically you could manage your network with either hpov or netview
- the detailed requirements of your network-staff are in fact very
interesting: if people are talking what they need, they have to explain
their needs (e.g. functions per management discipline like configuration
mgmt., performance mgmt., fault management etc.)
- the argument of 99% Cisco Devices is beyond the pale - otherwise they
should have to use CiscoWorks2000 !

The advantages of openview are:
- more integrated applications, but this becomes more and more less
important, since most of the tools have web-clients
- if you have a systemmgmt. solution based on hpov, then it would make sense
to take hpov
- if you look at the layer-2 managament functions, then probably hpov could
be ahead of netview in the near future (because they oem-ed the Riversoft
NMOS-Kernel, but the question is how they integrated NMOS into hpov and
built their own root-cause analysis)
- the event application is currently more useful than netview's


The advantages of netview are:

- if you have a systemmgmt. solution based on tivoli, then it would make
sense to take netview
- netviews web-client ist currenty the best (although there is some room for
improvement) - and you can integrate your own applications
- smartsets ! for the gui and the scripts ! (remember the nice nvUtil
command ...)
- mlm for trap-filtering ! anyone knows something similar powerful, simple
AND cheap solution ?
- layer-2: it will be very exciting how tivoli will develope their switch
analyzer
- netview runs on AIX and LINUX ! (does hpov run on linux ?)
- last but not least: I believe in the tivoli support and development team -
they talk to their users and know the requirements of network management in
real life !

cordially

Herbert Adamczyk

INFORMATIONS-TECHNOLOGIE AUSTRIA GMBH
Netzwerk-Management

A-1020 Wien, Lassallestraße 5
Telefon: ++43-1-21717-58943
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Eric Pobst [mailto:epobst98@hotmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Juli 2002 16:15
> An: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
> Betreff: [nv-l] NetView vs. OpenView
> 
> The battle continues......
> 
> Does anyone have or could point me in the direction of a document that
> outlines the "NetView vs. OpenView" pro's/con's list.  Currently at this
> client site we use NetView to monitor all hardware on 100+ aix servers and
> in the beginning stages of rolling the networks into the equation.  The
> problem lying, in that the network group has been using OpenView for a few
> years now and they are somewhat convinced NetView would not meet their
> requirements (99% Cisco network devices).  So far with absolute certainty,
> I
> can only come up with 3 pts. why they should use NetView.
> 
> 1. It is paid for (big one)
> 2. It is already integrated with our Tivoli/Remedy Ticketing system
> 3. They would not have to support the NetView product
> 
> Off course, these seem more like "salesman" points, I would prefer to
> provide them a technical capability list.  Unfortunately I have not fully
> explored the Network monitoring capabilities of NetView and I have only
> book
> knowledge of OpenView, either way, I do not want to steer them wrong.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
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