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Re: [nv-l] nv-l X Window Zooming

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Subject: Re: [nv-l] nv-l X Window Zooming
From: Paul Stroud <pstroud@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:17:36 -0500
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Its got something to do with the algorithym used to draw the map. Are you
aware you can select multiple devices by drawing a box around them. This
would allow you to move them closer so as to allow the map to redraw.

Paul


On Friday 19 December 2003 09:58, you wrote:
> Thank you all for the input.   I am currently on Map #27 with regards to
> the upkeep of location.conf.  We build it currently from a DNS database
> file.  Our trouble currently is that we are still ironning out the
> standards for SNMP and the locations of all our devices.  We have about
> 1000 worldwide gateways.
>     Does anyhone know though whty on the map it puts devcies way far away
> from the main as opposed to others that are still very close?
>
>
>
>
>
> Gareth Holl <gholl@us.ibm.com>
> Sent by: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
> 12/18/2003 08:33 PM
> Please respond to nv-l
>
>
>         To:     nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
>         cc:     "'nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com'" <nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com>,
> owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
>         Subject:        RE: [nv-l] nv-l  X Window Zooming
>
>
>
> Also, note that the location.conf can be a work in progress. Each time you
> make a significant modification to the location.conf, simply create a new
> map (called "temp" for example) from the GUI and it will be built based
> from the existing Object and Topology databases and on the new
> location.conf file. If you are happy with the result, delete the current
> "Default" map and rename the new map from "temp" to "Default". In other
> words there is no need to re-discover just because you have made changes
> to the location.conf, hence you can continually improve the appearance and
> layout of your maps in steps.
>
> Check the /usr/OV/log/location.log file after any change to the
> location.conf to see if you have any syntax or logic errors. I would still
> recommend backing up your database before major changes such as creating
> and deleting maps. Better to be safe than sorry !!!
>
> Gareth Holl
> Staff Software Engineer
> gholl@us.ibm.com
>
> IBM Software Group - Tivoli Brand
> Research Triangle Park,  North Carolina.
>
>
>
> "Hill, Channing" <CHill@bbandt.com>
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> 12/18/2003 08:05 PM
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>
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>         cc:
>         Subject:        RE: [nv-l] nv-l  X Window Zooming
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>
>
> I agree....We have about 36,000 objects (about 2,000 gateways). I spent
> about 3 days building a location.conf file by discovering sections of our
> network via seedfile and fine tuning each entry in location.conf as I
> went.
> Once completed, you will never have to worry about dragging and dropping
> objects ever again if you have to perform a rediscover. Just make sure you
> have a safe backup method for your location.conf file....treat it like
> "gold". There are several good posts in the list related to location.conf.
> Its defiantly worth it to research/read up on how to use the location.conf
> file before you begin.
>
> Channing Hill
> EMS Analyst II
> BB&T
> (252) 246-3642
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul [mailto:pstroud@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:42 PM
> To: nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
> Subject: Re: [nv-l] nv-l X Window Zooming
>
>
> Chris,
> The map will only zoom to x10(possibly x15) but that is
> as far it will go. However, even at the greatest zoom,
> you should be able to select devices. Are they still to
> small? If that is the case, I have some advice,
> location.conf. Take some time to think about how you
> can break down that map into logical groupings(geography, business
> unit....)
> and then build your map from the location.conf. I have seen maps with
>
> >70,000 objects that were laid out very nicely. You will be doing youself
>
> a
> great service. There is one guy who reads this list that has about 20,000
> objects on his map and can rediscover the whole thing in about 20 minutes.
> He doesn't even keep backups because he can rediscover and redraw the map
> to
> his liking automagically. Its a pretty slick setup.It will take some time
> and will involve a good deal of tedious work, but in the end if done
> properly, it makes NetView a very nice Window to your network. This is all
> of course my humble opinion.
>
> Paul
>
> Christopher J Petrina wrote:
> > using X windows I can only zoom in so far on the map, and being that
> > it is
> > placing the devices very far apart from one another (Why does it do this
> >
> > anyways:  I think I know why but looking for real reason), I can only
>
> zoom
>
> > in so far and then I cannot select any devices.  I could use the
> > autolayout and turn it off, but then no devices would be placed in the
> > proper containers I have created using location.conf.  Is this a limit
>
> of
>
> > my X windows ability?
> >
> > TIA
> > Chris Petrina
> >
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