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Re: UNIX vs. NT functionality -- NetView 5.1.2 level

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Subject: Re: UNIX vs. NT functionality -- NetView 5.1.2 level
From: James Shanks <James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:58:19 -0400

Ok, Guys, now it is my turn to betray my deep-seated ignorance of NT and of even
our product on NT.

Gary --  How do you start multiple TESS windows?  I don't see a GUI option for

Chris --  What in the world is VNC?   I know what Tivoli Remote Control (RC) is
but it seems to me that is a very long way around to get multiple windows on an
NT workstation.  Or do you know something I don't?

And a couple of comments.

Since perl V4 is actually shipped with the current Framework, it is unlikely
that NetView will add native support for that, in my view.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for a Linux port to save a mere $700.  If memory
servers me correctly, NetView for UNIX is $15K, so that would be just a 5 per
cent savings.  And if they add yet another operating system as a supported
configuration, I would expect the price to go up.  Even if Linux is free, and
even if the port is a piece of cake (which I doubt), there is still the cost of
testing all the code and rewriting the doc and providing the machines and
resources to do the builds and so on which will have to be accounted for. Every
new platform causes an exponential testing requirement because of all the new
permutations in deployment (e.g - can a Linux client talk to NetView Solaris
server?). So you may well see your savings eaten up by a price increase in the

These latter comments are mine alone and do not represent any official statement
by the Tivoli/IBM  corporation.

James Shanks
Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support

Chris Cowan <chris.cowan@2ND-WAVE.COM> on 09/13/99 01:24:08 PM

Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView

cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
Subject:  Re: UNIX vs. NT functionality -- NetView 5.1.2 level

"Boyles, Gary P" wrote:
> A few additions/corrections:
>   a)  Multiple event-windows can be started (if we're talking about the

>   d)  But... I really miss X-windows, and I hope the web-interface in
>       the next release helps minimize the need for remote-access.

I find that VNC works quite nicely in this capacity for remote Win32.
I imagine you could use Tivoli RC
too (which has gotten considerably better with V 3.6.5).   But, I prefer

>   e)  I'll 2nd (or 3rd) the wish that they support Perl instead of TCL.
>   f)  You can comfortably manage 5000 nodes on NT (default polling
>       settings) on a beefy $2000 workstation/PC... I don't know what
>       the upper limits are for either though.

I still would rather have LINUX support (there's an additional $700 off
the total cost!)

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