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Re: [nv-l] using SNMP trap to change object attribute

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From: Paul <pstroud@bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:25:47 -0500
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Jason,
How did it get placed in the smartset, was it a rule that captured
an original trap and then based on that trap, set the flag and placed
it in the smartset?

If thats the case you could do a ruleset like this:

This is ugly due to text contraints, but here goes

From the event Source we look for two traps, the original trigger
trap to set the flag, and BGP traps

                     Event Source
                               |
             -------------------------------------------
             |                                          |
Original Trigger Trap             BGP Trap
             |                                          |
        Action(Set Flag)                     |
             |                                          |
    Reset on Match(60min timer)---
             |
        Action(Unset Flag)

So in the rulest above, we wait for the trap that initiates the setting
of the flag, then we wait for 60 minutes, if the BGP trap does not show
up within the 60 minute timer, the flag will be unset. If the BGP trap
does come in during that period, both events will be dropped. The
only way the flag would be removed is if the BGP trap did not arrive
within 60 minutes. You could also make it so if the BGP trap does come
in, it also removes the flag(but I did not see that as a requirement.

I hope all that makes sense, let me know if I need to clarify!

Paul



Allison, Jason (JALLISON) wrote:

Than just for academic purposes, here is a problem statement:  Remove
device from Smart Set when a BGP trap has not been received in 60
minutes from that device.

I see your solution regarding having a cron remove the device after a
certain period of time, but looking at the problem statement above, I
don't think that solution efficiently solves our problem statement
above.  Are there mechanisms in NetView that will solve the issue above,
either systematically or programmatically, i.e. through configuration or
scripts/programs?

I'm curious, as I don't see an easy way outisde of writing an external
timer.

Jason


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Subject: Re: [nv-l] using SNMP trap to change object attribute


Missed that, well now things get interesting, I could write a script
that ran from cron that removed them every hour or something, but my
feeling is we are still missing information. What is the time limit they
want to use, do they want to base it on a per day basis? There are
several ways this could be addressed:

get the trap, set the flag, wait x minutes, remove the flag. I use a
pass on match node for this with no second input, so it acts as a timer
and then passes the event on. Later in the ruleset after the timer kicks
the flag could be removed.

You could remove them via a cron script, either hourly or daily.

There's just not enough information to determine exactly what he wants
to do, that is going to determine what kind of solutions fits best...

Paul

Allison, Jason (JALLISON) wrote:

From Craig's second email, it seems our answer is "Can an attribute be
set to clear after a certain period of time?"  That would mean we would

want the flag to be removed after a period of time that a specific trap

has not been received. I am far from knowledgeable about Smart Sets, is this possible? What other ways can it be accomplished?

Jason


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Jason,
Well first we would want to know what event is going to create a situation where the flag should be removed, new traps, specfic traps, what? So if we receive BGP traps from a device in the smartset, run an action to remove the flag. This could easily be done from a ruleset, but we would need more information about what should cause the flag to be removed.

Paul

Allison, Jason (JALLISON) wrote:



Agreed, but how is the flag on the device being removed/un-set?  From
my understanding of Leslie's email, it takes an operator action to un-set the flag. How does an operator know if X number of BGP traps have been received in Y amount of time?

Jason

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Subject: Re: [nv-l] using SNMP trap to change object attribute


If membership in the smartset requires that flag to be set, once the flag is removed the device should be removed from the smartset. I am not sure of the timing of this,
but I would think within 5 minutes or so that device should be
removed.
Paul


Allison, Jason (JALLISON) wrote:



There is a lot of good information in here.  I guess my only question
would be is how are the devices removed from the smartset?  Looking
at
your information below it seems the operator needs to run the Trap_Flag_Clear.sh (highlight nodes / OVwSelections) in order to clear
the condition. From what I understood from the original problem statement is that after a period of time, the devices should be removed automatically.


Jason

 -----Original Message-----
 *From:* owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
 [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] *On Behalf Of *Leslie Clark
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2005 6:11 PM
 *To:* nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
 *Subject:* RE: [nv-l] using SNMP trap to change object attribute


 I do that sort of thing like this:
 1) add a field to my custom fields file /usr/OV/fields/C/My.fields
 Field "My_Trap_Flag" {
         Type    String;
         Flags   locate, general;

 }
 Run 'ovw -fields' after messing with a fields file.
 2) In trapd.conf, define the traps of interest as having a trap
 source of 'Y' instead of the usual 'A' or 'u'
 3) Make a Netview ruleset that with an Event Attribute cube that
 checks trap source for 'Y' and invokes an action
 '<path>/TrapFlag.sh -set $NVA'
 4) Make that ruleset run in the background
 (/usr/OV/conf/ESE.automation)
 5) write a little script TrapFlag.sh that uses nvdbimport to set
 the field 'My_Trap_Flag' to TRUE for the node that the trap is
from.


 6) On the reports menu (/usr/OV/reports/C) add two scripts to call
 that script: TrapFlagSet.sh and TrapFlagClear.sh

 Trap_Flag_Set.sh
 #!/bin/ksh
# Set trap flag to True for the selected nodes. name=$(basename $0)
 xnmappmon -geometry 680x500 -commandTitle "$name" \
    -commandHeading "Setting Trap Flag to TRUE for Selected Nodes "
\


    -cmd <path>/TrapFlag.sh -set $OVwSelections

 Trap_Flag_Clear.sh
 #!/bin/ksh
# Set Trap Flag to false for the selected nodes. name=$(basename $0)
 xnmappmon -geometry 680x500 -commandTitle "$name" \
    -commandHeading "Setting Trap Flag to FALSE for Selected Nodes
" \


    -cmd <path>/TrapFlag.sh -clear $OVwSelections

 Users can execute those functions against one or more nodes
 selected on the map. Usually they would only use the clearing one.
 But the setting one is handy for testing.

 The job of the TrapFlag.sh script is to generate an import file
 that looks like this:
   Selection Name,My_Trap_Flag
   nodename,TRUE  (or FALSE on the clear)
 and run nvdbimport to set the values for the nodes selected on the
 map, or indicated by the rule. See the man page for nvdbimport.
 There are samples in /usr/OV/conf/nvdbtools.

 Then make your problem smartset include the criteria " ||
 My_Trap_Flag=TRUE

 The operators will know that green things in the problem smartset
 are there because of traps. They should look up the events for
 that node to see what they are. I usually provide another function
 on that reports menu that does a grep in trapd.log for the
 selected node. You could do the grep right from the script in
 /usr/OV/reports/C, but I usually have it all another one in my
 custom scripts directory. The reason for this is so I can offer
 the same function to web console users as I do to the Motif users.

 Cordially,

 Leslie A. Clark
 IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
 (248) 552-4968 Voicemail, Fax, Pager



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 Jason,

 I assumed that if we set attribute 'IP Status', then it would get
 reset the
 next time NetView polls the device. If we set another attribute,
 then I
 assume we will have to reset manually, or use a clearing trap to
 reset the
 attribute. Can an attribute be set to clear after a certain period
 of time?

 How would you suggest that we do this?

 Thanks.


 --
 Craig Freter
 Social Security Administration
Mailto:craig.freter@ssa.gov Phone: 410-965-9502
 -----Original Message-----
 From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
 [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
 Behalf Of Allison, Jason (JALLISON)
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:10 PM
 To: nv-l@lists.tivoli.com
 Subject: RE: [nv-l] using SNMP trap to change object attribute

 It can be done (not sure how with smartsets though).  The theory
 being when
 a BGP trap arrives, set a certain status or set some other
attribute.


 However, when do you toggle the other way?  Meaning, after what
 interval do
 you want a router to be removed from the smartset?

 Jason


 -----Original Message-----
 From: owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com
 [mailto:owner-nv-l@lists.us.ibm.com] On
 Behalf Of Freter, Craig
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:02 PM
 To: 'nv-l@lists.tivoli.com'
 Subject: [nv-l] using SNMP trap to change object attribute


 Hello,

 System information:
 OS - AIX 5.1
 NetView - 7.1.3
 FixPack3

 We are currently using a Smartset to view Routers that are either
 down or
 unreachable. Here is the Smartset rule: (('IP Status'='Critical')
 || ('IP
 Status'='Unreachable')) &&
 ('isRouter'=True)

 Besides "Critical' and 'Unreachable', we would also like this
 Smartset to
 display routers that send BGP traps to NetView. Is there any way
 to have an
 incoming SNMP trap change the value of 'IP Status', or any other
 object
 attribute? Is this the wrong use of a Smartset?

 Thanks.

 --
 Craig Freter
 Social Security Administration
 Mailto:craig.freter@ssa.gov
 Phone: 410-965-9502












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