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Re: netview/solaris and x-windows pcs?

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Subject: Re: netview/solaris and x-windows pcs?
From: OGrant <OGrant@PEC.COM>
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:07:40 -0400
Reply-to: Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on NetView <NV-L@UCSBVM.UCSB.EDU>
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Ah, this should make setting up our netview server/winnt-exceed stations a
breeze.  Many thanks for the details - Oliver

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie Clark [SMTP:lclark@US.IBM.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 12:26 PM
> To:   NV-L@UCSBVM.ucsb.edu
> Subject:      Re: netview/solaris and x-windows pcs?
>
> long-winded explanation follows....
>
> Pretend you had a second Unix box (mybox) with Motif on it. You would
> open an xterm (or aixterm) window and telnet to the Netview server and
> login. Then you would export your display (export DISPLAY=mybox:0.0)
> and type in nv6000 and the map would come up on the glass at mybox. The
> process behind that is /usr/OV/bin/ovw, but that ovw is running on the
> Netview server. There is one set of background daemons, as seen with
> ovstatus, but there is also one ovw process per map user. (Users may be
> using different maps, or the same map. If the same map, one gets it r/w
> and the others get it r/o. See manual for controlling access).
>
> The X (or Motif) is the part that provides the fancy graphics. The widgets
> and the frames and all. There must be a 'server' to put that up on the
> glass. In the preceding example, that is provided by the Motif on mybox.
> If you are on the local Netview server, it is provided by Motif on the
> server.
>
> You can take another step away and instead of telneting to the Netview
> Server, you can telnet to a Netview Client. That Client is something
> you installed via Tivoli when you installed the Netview Server. The
> daemons still run on the Netview Server. The ovw process runs on the
> Netview Client. Your telnet session from mybox starts another ovw on the
> Netview Client. Netview provides communication between the Netview Client
> and Netview Server. The telnet business is all the same as in the first
> example.
>
> Now you want to do your telnet from a PC. A PC does not natively have
> Motif on it. You can telnet to the Netview Server (or Client), and you
> can export the DISPLAY, but if you run nv6000, you will get an error that
> it could not open the display or could not start something. You need
> something to emulate X (emulate Motif). So you put on eXceeds or Chameleon
> or some other X emulator to provide that service on the PC.
>
> I set one up from scratch just last week. After installing the eXceed
> product, we used the Client Wizard to define a session to the Netview
> server. By default it set up an REXEC session. We altered that to use
> Telnet instead, and provide the login and password. The command that
> it set up to be executed was 'aixterm' and passed it the -d flag with
> a variable that automatically determined the ip address of the pc and
> caused the DISPLAY variable to be set at login. When we used that
> icon, it opened a telnet session with the Netview server, and all we
> had to do was type in nv6000 and the map came right up. The reason we
> used Telnet rather than rexec was so that the .profile and .kshrc would
> be executed automatically at login, ensuring a correct environment for
> running nv6000. If we had added the -e flag to the aixterm command, we
> could have told it to execute 'nv6000' at startup as well. If we were
> going to Solaris, I imagine that the command would be xterm vs aixterm.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Leslie A. Clark
> IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
>
>
> Thanks, I received similar responses confirming that chameleon/exceed-type
> products worked with netview/unix - my question remains, how?  That is,
> what
> exactly is one running through an x-windows package?  For example, is one
> connecting via x-windows to the sun machine to run a seperate instance of
> the netview client (or server?)  Thanks for demystifying this procedure
> for
> me - Oliver Grant

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