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Re: Ruleset Approach for Quad NIC

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Subject: Re: Ruleset Approach for Quad NIC
From: Ray Schafer <schafer@tkg.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:23:20 +0000
"James H. Mapp" wrote:

> Leslie Clark- Thanks. Just to emphasize, that the ip addresses are all
> different
> on each of the four NIC interfaces, you feel that Netview would generate a
> Node
> Down event on it's own when all four ip addresses (not aware that SNMP needs
> to
> running on the host server that has the quad nic card) are down ? No script
> ?

Yes SNMP should be running on the box with the quad NIC.  That way NetView will
automatically put the symbols for all 4 interfaces under the same computer
icon.    If it's not running snmp, there are ways to teach NetView that all the
interfaces belong to the same box: If all ip addresses resolve to the same
name, or if you use the loadhosts command you can do teach NetView that all 4
NICs are on the same box.  However the best, most reliable method is to turn on
SNMP on the box.

Then status will propogate up.  If one interface goes down (red), the computer
icon will turn from green to yellow, and will display a status of marginal.  If
all interfaces are down, the box will be marked down, have a status of
critical, you'll see a node down trap, and the icon will be red in the map.


> thanks
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lclark@us.ibm.com [mailto:lclark@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:04 PM
> To: NV-L@tkg.com
> Subject: RE: [NV-L] Ruleset Approach for Quad NIC
>
> What's probably confusing  Mr. Mapp is that the server probably does not
> have
> IP forwarding enabled, so the node shows up in 4 separate subnets but not
> on the
> top level map as it would if it were a router. But the behavior should be
> the same.
> If all 4 interfaces are down, you should get a Node Down event.
>
> Cordially,
>
> Leslie A. Clark
> IBM Global Services - Systems Mgmt & Networking
> Detroit
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Leslie Clark/Southfield/IBM on
> 06/14/2000 09:01 PM ---------------------------
>
> James_Shanks@TIVOLI.COM@tkg.com on 06/14/2000 01:06:42 PM
>
> Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>
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> To:   IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: [NV-L] Ruleset Approach for Quad NIC
>
> The same way that NetView knows that any two distinct IP addresses are on
> the
> same physical server -- through SNMP.  Every SNMP agent maintains an
> interface
> tables and that is one of the main things that NetView queries in each
> device
> after it is discovered.  It is fundamental that your servers have SNMP
> installed
> and working, else NetView will not manage them very well.
>
> This dovetails with the questions Ray asked.  What do your NIC servers look
> like?  Pick one off the map, right click on it, pick "Tools" then "Display
> Object Information", and see many interfaces it has in the TopM Interface
> Count.
> The TopM Interface List tells what they are.     Are you managing all of
> them or
> just the ones with NIC?
>
> James Shanks
> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX and NT) L3 Support
>
> "James H. Mapp" <jhmapp@dimension.net> on 06/14/2000 12:22:47 PM
>
> Please respond to IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
>
> To:   IBM NetView Discussion <nv-l@tkg.com>
> cc:    (bcc: James Shanks/Tivoli Systems)
> Subject:  RE: [NV-L] Ruleset Approach for Quad NIC
>
> HI- So, if each NIC interface has a different ip address, how does NEtview
> know that those addresses are from the same physical server ?? Each
> interface
> is on it's own separate LAN segment, allowing for a segment to fail, and
> still
> allow backup routes to get to the server around the failure.
>
> thanks + see ya
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mythili Kannan [mailto:mythili@anytech-inc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:05 AM
> To: IBM NetView Discussion
> Subject: Re: [NV-L] Ruleset Approach for Quad NIC
>
> Jim:
> I do not think you need to use ruleset for this.  If you have multiple NICs
> on a box and if you manage all these interfaces with NetView, you will get
> Node Down event only when all interfaces (ie., all NICs) are down.
>
> - Regards, Mythili
>
> At 09:14 AM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >I only want to generate a node down if NIC1 AND NIC2 AND NIC3 AND NIC4 are
> >all
> >down. Can someone tell me if this do-able with a ruleset ? Each NIC
> >interface will have
> >a different ip address.
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Jim Mapp
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